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KYH โ€“ Know Your Hiver: a proposal for an opt-in "verified human" badge on Hive ๐Ÿ

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Dear Hivers, dear front-end teams ( @peakd, @ecency, @actifit, @threespeak, HiveSuite, Hive.blog, InLeo and everyone building on this chain), good morning from the hills of Cagli! โ˜•

After forty years working in IT and a few years on Hive, I've come to a simple conclusion: on Hive we know everything about our wallets, but very little about who's behind them. ๐Ÿ˜„

So today I'd like to put an idea on the table: a KYH โ€“ Know Your Hiver procedure.

๐Ÿ“จ Before writing this post, I already reached out to the developers of two of the most popular front ends, PeakD and HiveSuite.app, through the suggestion channels on their Discord servers, sharing the idea and the proposal with them. Now it's the whole community's turn: a good idea grows better when many heads (and many hearts ๐Ÿงก) work on it.

๐Ÿค” What is KYH?

Think of KYC (Know Your Customer), but without banks, without endless forms and without anyone asking for your grandmother's maiden name.

KYH is an opt-in procedure that certifies there's a real human being behind an account, and rewards that with a "Verified Human" badge on the blockchain.

Not who you are. Just that you are. ๐Ÿ‘ค

๐Ÿ›ก๏ธ Why do we need it?

The main reason is simple: one person should not be able to collect rewards through dozens of accounts.

We've all seen them: accounts that vote for each other, born the same day, writing the same post with slightly different synonyms, with the same passion for self-upvoting. Maybe they're a big, close-knit family. Maybe they're one person with a lot of free time and a lot of browser tabs. ๐Ÿ™ƒ

Every reward that goes to an account farm is a reward that doesn't go to a real author, a real photographer, a real gardener or a real runner.

๐ŸŒฑ Other benefits

  • ๐ŸŽฏ Smarter curation: curators and communities can choose to give priority to verified authors
  • ๐ŸŽ Fairer airdrops, contests and giveaways: 1 human = 1 share, not 1 human = 47 shares
  • ๐Ÿ—ณ๏ธ "One human, one voice" polls: alongside stake-based voting, sometimes it's nice to know what people think
  • ๐Ÿƒ Fitness and proof-of-activity dApps: real steps by real legs
  • ๐Ÿค– Fewer bots, spam and AI content mills
  • ๐ŸŽญ Fewer impersonators and scammers: harder to pretend to be someone else
  • ๐Ÿค More trust for newcomers, local businesses and brands joining Hive
  • ๐Ÿ”— A shared standard: every dApp can read the same badge, no need to reinvent the wheel

โš™๏ธ How could it work? A few ideas

1. Completely optional. Nobody is forced to verify. Unverified accounts keep all their rights. Pseudonymity is part of Hive's soul and must stay that way.

2. No personal data on-chain. Ever. Only the badge (and at most a hash or a zero-knowledge proof) is written on the blockchain. Documents, faces and names stay off-chain, or better yet, are never stored at all.

3. Verification levels, for example:

  • ๐Ÿฅ‰ Bronze: vouched for by 3 already-verified Hivers (a web of trust)
  • ๐Ÿฅˆ Silver: a short video call with a community verifier
  • ๐Ÿฅ‡ Gold: met in person at a meetup or at HiveFest (hugs optional, handshake recommended ๐Ÿค)

4. A decentralized network of verifiers, not a single central authority. Verifiers could be rewarded with a small amount through a DHF proposal.

5. One human, one "main" account. Alt accounts, projects and bots can be declared and linked, but only one counts as "the human".

6. Revocable and renewable. The badge can be revoked in case of abuse (with a fair appeal process) and renewed every year or two.

7. A common standard across front ends. A custom_json or a shared badge account that PeakD, Ecency, HiveSuite, Actifit, InLeo, 3Speak and every other app can read and display in the same way.

๐Ÿถ A small confession

My dog @choko.shock has his own Hive account. I'm afraid he would not pass the KYH. ๐Ÿพ

But we could think of a dedicated badge for him too: KYH โ€“ Know Your Hound. Verified Lagotto, certified ball chaser. ๐ŸŽพ

๐Ÿ™ Over to you

This is just a starting point, not a finished project. I'd love to hear from:

  • front-end teams: would you be interested in building a common standard together?
  • developers: what's the most elegant way to do it on-chain while respecting privacy?
  • every Hiver: would you get verified? What worries you? What would you add?

Let's talk about it in the comments. And if anyone wants to do their Gold verification in person, the door of Ca' Paradiso is open: a glass of local wine helps a lot in recognizing a real human being. ๐Ÿท๐Ÿ˜‰


๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡น KYH โ€“ Know Your Hiver: una proposta per un badge facoltativo di "essere umano verificato" su Hive ๐Ÿ

Cari Hiver, cari team dei front end ( @peakd, @ecency, @actifit, @threespeak, HiveSuite, Hive.blog, InLeo e tutti quelli che costruiscono su questa blockchain), buongiorno dalle colline di Cagli! โ˜•

Dopo quarant'anni nell'informatica e qualche anno su Hive, sono arrivato a una conclusione semplice: su Hive sappiamo tutto dei nostri wallet, ma molto poco di chi c'รจ dietro. ๐Ÿ˜„

Per questo oggi metto sul tavolo un'idea: una procedura KYH โ€“ Know Your Hiver.

๐Ÿ“จ Prima di scrivere questo post ho giร  contattato gli sviluppatori di due dei front end piรน diffusi, PeakD e HiveSuite.app, attraverso i canali dei suggerimenti dei loro server Discord, esponendo loro l'idea e la proposta. Ora tocca a tutta la community: una buona idea cresce meglio quando ci lavorano tante teste (e tanti cuori ๐Ÿงก).

๐Ÿค” Cos'รจ il KYH?

Pensate al KYC (Know Your Customer), ma senza banche, senza moduli infiniti e senza nessuno che vi chieda il cognome da nubile della nonna.

Il KYH รจ una procedura facoltativa che certifica che dietro un account c'รจ un vero essere umano, e lo premia con un badge "Verified Human" sulla blockchain.

Non chi sei. Solo che ci sei. ๐Ÿ‘ค

๐Ÿ›ก๏ธ Perchรฉ ci serve?

Il motivo principale รจ semplice: una sola persona non dovrebbe poter raccogliere ricompense attraverso decine di account.

Li abbiamo visti tutti: account che si votano a vicenda, nati lo stesso giorno, che scrivono lo stesso post cambiando qualche sinonimo, con la stessa passione per l'autovoto. Forse sono una famiglia numerosa e molto unita. Forse sono una persona sola con tanto tempo libero e tante schede del browser aperte. ๐Ÿ™ƒ

Ogni ricompensa che finisce in una fattoria di account รจ una ricompensa che non va a un vero autore, a un vero fotografo, a un vero ortolano o a un vero runner.

๐ŸŒฑ Altri vantaggi

  • ๐ŸŽฏ Curation piรน intelligente: curatori e community possono scegliere di dare prioritร  agli autori verificati
  • ๐ŸŽ Airdrop, contest e giveaway piรน equi: 1 umano = 1 quota, non 1 umano = 47 quote
  • ๐Ÿ—ณ๏ธ Sondaggi "una persona, una voce": accanto al voto pesato sullo stake, ogni tanto รจ bello sapere cosa pensano le persone
  • ๐Ÿƒ dApp di fitness e proof-of-activity: passi veri fatti da gambe vere
  • ๐Ÿค– Meno bot, spam e fabbriche di contenuti IA
  • ๐ŸŽญ Meno impostori e truffatori: piรน difficile spacciarsi per qualcun altro
  • ๐Ÿค Piรน fiducia per nuovi utenti, attivitร  locali e brand che arrivano su Hive
  • ๐Ÿ”— Uno standard condiviso: ogni dApp puรฒ leggere lo stesso badge, senza reinventare la ruota

โš™๏ธ Come potrebbe funzionare? Qualche idea

1. Del tutto facoltativo. Nessuno รจ obbligato a verificarsi. Gli account non verificati mantengono tutti i loro diritti. Lo pseudonimato fa parte dell'anima di Hive e deve restare cosรฌ.

2. Nessun dato personale on-chain. Mai. Sulla blockchain viene scritto solo il badge (al massimo un hash o una prova a conoscenza zero). Documenti, volti e nomi restano fuori dalla catena, o meglio ancora non vengono conservati affatto.

3. Livelli di verifica, per esempio:

  • ๐Ÿฅ‰ Bronzo: garantito da 3 Hiver giร  verificati (una rete di fiducia)
  • ๐Ÿฅˆ Argento: una breve videochiamata con un verificatore della community
  • ๐Ÿฅ‡ Oro: conosciuto di persona a un meetup o all'HiveFest (abbracci facoltativi, stretta di mano consigliata ๐Ÿค)

4. Una rete decentralizzata di verificatori, non un'unica autoritร  centrale. I verificatori potrebbero ricevere un piccolo compenso tramite una proposta del DHF.

5. Un umano, un account "principale". Account secondari, progetti e bot possono essere dichiarati e collegati, ma solo uno conta come "l'umano".

6. Revocabile e rinnovabile. Il badge puรฒ essere revocato in caso di abusi (con una procedura di ricorso equa) e rinnovato ogni uno o due anni.

7. Uno standard comune tra i front end. Un custom_json o un account badge condiviso che PeakD, Ecency, HiveSuite, Actifit, InLeo, 3Speak e ogni altra app possano leggere e mostrare allo stesso modo.

๐Ÿถ Una piccola confessione

Il mio cane @choko.shock ha un suo account Hive. Temo che il KYH non lo passerebbe. ๐Ÿพ

Ma potremmo pensare anche per lui a un badge dedicato: KYH โ€“ Know Your Hound. Lagotto verificato, inseguitore di palline certificato. ๐ŸŽพ

๐Ÿ™ A voi la parola

Questo รจ solo un punto di partenza, non un progetto finito. Mi piacerebbe sentire:

  • i team dei front end: vi interesserebbe costruire insieme uno standard comune?
  • gli sviluppatori: qual รจ il modo piรน elegante per farlo on-chain rispettando la privacy?
  • ogni Hiver: vi verifichereste? Cosa vi preoccupa? Cosa aggiungereste?

Parliamone nei commenti. E se qualcuno vuole fare la sua verifica Oro di persona, la porta di Ca' Paradiso รจ aperta: un bicchiere di vino locale aiuta molto a riconoscere un vero essere umano. ๐Ÿท๐Ÿ˜‰

๐ŸŒฟ Matteo - Ca' Paradiso, Cagli www.caparadiso.com

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    That is a funny point about your dog having an account. I actually like the idea of a web of trust for verification since it avoids centralizing things too much.

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