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Hey, friend.🙂 First, uh, of course a HUGE thanks for the follow! Greatly appreciated. Then, i swing by your place to get to know you a bit....and this is the first thing i see. An amazing analysis with some great insight. I love reading ashers stuff. And, while in the middle of your post, for a second there thought i was reading him.(sorry, if thats offensive to you.)😁 Then i laughed my butt off when i dropped down to the comments...and there he is...the first guy, right on top. I'd love to say im surprised, but my grandpa always said,"money knows money boy, and smart men know smart men." So, not surprised....but really happy to see. Now i have an excuse to ramble to him too.
And as far as if theres bot or not, im okay either way. I keep all my accounts' resources below the "safe" line and i dont attack people. One, because it's just mean, and two, it just seems a horrible waste of resources.(just my opinions. 🤪) i try to just build build all the accounts as much as possible to help others. No time for yhe silly squabbling. 😂🤣 anyway, as i reread this, i noticed its starting to look more and more like a post. All thats missing is a picture. Oh, hang on i have one of those too....
Yep, me pretending to be Spiderman.... for my son. HAVE A GOOD NIGHT AND A GREAT WEEK BROTHER!
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Hell! When I spend hours scroling down the list of potential targets for an atack, they simply use automation to hide their drugs and create units. Of course human players may lose interest in this game
Where can I find the complete list of all API methods? The github sample usage examples illustrates only a few.
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This was an early concern of mine, thanks for taking the time to make a report.
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Thanks. This analisys is very interesting. I'm developing a new game for Steem and this information is very useful to me. I don't like game bots!
This was very enlightening @crokkon, thanks. Hop they manage to get it under control.
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Scripting will get MUCH worse with time... Just remember OGame!... I could have weeks without checking my account, and always have my ships/resources protected...
I am not saying its the best or worse path to take, it depends... But I would prefer for the "Humanized" non-scriptable one, to be the one STEEM can actually bring more value into these kinds of games.
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Thanks a lot for the data... I was curious too ;-) There are humans, bots... but also 1 mannequin playing the game, haha! Big hug Steemitri The Mannequin
The drugwars team implemented an authentication method on the websocket API around a day ago. This means that most of the published auto-heist scripts will not work anymore out of the box but need some adjustments. Not everybody that used the public scripts will be able to make these changes and I haven't seen any posts with updated scripts yet.
The change which is require to login to websocket API takes about 5-10 lines of code. From my perspective it was made not to limit access to API but to help drugwars team find user names of players who are abusing the API.
The problem is that it in reality it doesn't change anything, for 6 STEEM you can buy a new Steem account and use it only to find players with cheap resources by calling get_user method. This info you pass to army of bot. The bot attacks looks then legit because no abuse of API is done by them :( You will have to only regular buy new accounts which will be banned for abusing the get_user method.
From my perspective identifying and banning bots is waste of time, instead of developing the game the team has to do some statistic analysis :( Instead of this number of user actions should be limited for e. g. 20 attacks a day, or only 1 attack in time frame of 2h . Maybe a captcha should be added before each attack.
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Thank you for this post. I actually started complaining about it in the drugwars post yesterday to get a debate going. Unsurprisingly bot users argue it is fair and it is the future. I am glad @drugwars has spoken on thee issue. Even a heist bot has a huge advantage as they don't need to do anything else in life but himans do.
For those already using relatively harmless bots, I don't think they deserve a ban, but moving forward, it should be stopped on at least one server.
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GREAT POST! i had to read every word of it! the charts and everything, really nice work! thanks for sharing! :D
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I am actually about to release something to help people perform automated actions in Drug Wars. Scripting in itself is not bad, I don't agree that people should be scripting attacks, but many of the online games I've played like this have a community with scripting.
A game I've played for years called Kings of Chaos has many scripts for macroifying game play. I think for DW scripting to automatically invest and buy units is fine (imo) scripting to auto attack or create multiple accounts and harvesting Steem is obviously bad.
Good analysis.
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Hey @crokkon,
Thank you for your interest in DrugWars and for this analysis. We are also sad to see so many automated actions ingame and are working hard to counter them and/or to make them useless. With a total of 11k players we can't let some people ruin the fair and the fun of the majority of the DrugLords.
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Hi @crokkon
Thank you for this analysis in relation to a topic I am personally interested in at present. This is the first utopian-io contribution for @drugwars, even though there have been stats posts produced relating to the game - perhaps it could spark a few more on the project :)
the 5th of March had a total of close to 80000 custom_json ops related to drugwars while a a blockchain day with 3s block time has 28.8k blocks - that's 2-3 drugwars ops per block in average!!
Quite an amazing statistic! The drug-lords really took over the blockchain on the 5th!
17% of all attacks were scripted
...users with scripted attacks is at around 2%
So 2% of the users generated almost a 5th of all the attacks, and I wonder just how many of those 2% are individual people!
I'm glad to hear the game is locking down on the scripts, and I hope they can see from the analysis just how much is/was going on without user input. If the game can't function do to automation, then everyone loses.
Cheers!
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Thank you for the information! I've been curious about bots and DrugWars... It is not surprising...
Very good analysis. I wouldn’t have thought bot ratio would be that high at this point but in any game you will find bots. So I guess I shouldn’t be surprised. I’m in the game and not running any scripts so 💯 human here. Wonder how long I will survive.
Good work. How long did it take to extract all signers?
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@crokkon you rock! I'm in the game as well and this is some interesting data to read :)
Thank you for the interesting analysis. While I haven't played yet, based on scripts opened and the structure of the game, I actually expected much higher bot ratio :)
I would not of thought the numbers of scripted users would be that high either. 100% human in my account.
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