Hive Governance

I've been voted into top20 just to be forced to vote on a Splinterlands proposal

Background: I've been a Hive witness for quite some time and have been sitting around the 21-22 position. Recently, I received two votes from folks related to Splinterlands. As always, I was happy to get the votes, but this time, it was not an appreciation but to force me to vote on the proposal.

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This has become a way to intimidate witnesses and "convince" them to do what some folks with high stakes want.

For your information, I'm not voting for proposal 315 and even voted Return Proposal to increase the funding threshold (I did this before I got the message as this is the only way to "vote no" for proposals). I'm not voting for it for many reasons and I don't want to touch this topic now.

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As a community, you have the right and privilege to vote for witnesses who align with your vision. Do it. Consider who you want to vote for as a witness and review your votes now.

I will always be happy to receive your vote (even the smallest one), but it won't influence my decisions.

Worth reading @pharesim statement on the same situation from his side: And there I was, thinking i could avoid politics

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@thebighigg(78)· 758d
It's too bad you "suddenly" got bumped out of the top 20! It's nice to see someone looking out for the good of Hive!
@nerdtopiade(71)· 763d
That is a shady move from aggro And Great that you dont let your voice be bought and voted 4 your witness 2
@hive.helps(65)· 764d
I like the way you are handling things. I voted for the Splinterlands proposal, but I do not understand Aggroeds behavior. I am not even sure, if he wanted to help SPL, because he should know, that such behaviour will damage SPLs reputation more, than it would help the company and the game :-(
@shmoogleosukami(73)· 764d
I praise you for standing your ground and keeping to what you believe in.

^{I'm a hive witness supporting the blockchain.}
@oldtimer(76)· 764d
You just earned my witness vote.
@roundbeargames(73)· 764d
This lets me know Hive still has hope.
@dlmmqb(75)· 764d
I have supported your witness before and have used some of the things you built on Hive.

My witness selections are sometimes too simple. If I use a product of a witness, I support them. That's why you might see some of my witness votes unused. I have a lot to say, but I am holding myself back from speaking further. Good luck with the rollercoaster ride.
@hurtlocker(70)· 764d
The amount of drama to get a Dapp marketing funding on HIVE has been exhausting.

We can’t even do something simple like promote a game already built on HIVE.

I don’t understand what the goal is for HIVE.
@woelfchen(73)· 765d
You got a new little vote :)
@wlffreitas(68)· 765d
Hi @engrave . You have to agree that most of the transactions on the chain are due to Splinterlands. That is, if it moved to the dead Steem, they could even surpass us in market capacity. I'm not saying that the current developers here don't have magnificent projects, there are glorious builders here like @pharesim, @arcange, @good-karma, @therealwolf, @howo and of course, I can't forget to mention the guy who deserved a statue for his bot ARTY creation @ausbitbank.

What I'm trying to say is that, although you may feel this way, not everything is as horrible as it's made out to be, just as in politics you have these “vote buys”. Aggroed may just have been trying to get allies to support a proposal that could favor the majority of the Hive community.

I must remind you that I'm sending out a daily message on your Splinterlands Discord server, Hire more staff, or by December we may only see two staff divided between the SoulKeep, Genesis and Splinterlands projects. Yes, they still haven't managed to make Genesis League work on iOS.
@crypticat(74)· 765d
😍 your integrity
@slobberchops(82)· 765d
I voted for the proposal as I have a decent stake in SPL, I don't want it to go under, but there are ways of asking and ways not to. I should have talked to you on the boat in Amsterdam, I was right next to you.
@thehive(70)· 765d
You did avoid politics. I think you must have missed something. You stood your ground on morals. there is no politics in morals. I'll go vote your witness.
@bitcoinflood(80)· 765d
This is the shady stuff I don't like but it comes from BOTH sides. All these DHF proposals create division and exiting of funds out of Hive that never get replaced. I'd say for a few exceptions like core development work and I'm almost 100% sure Splinterlands has brought in a lot more value then the $500,000 they are asking for. That should be grounds enough to get it to pass IMO.
@yabapmatt(72)· 765d
I am very sorry that you got involved in this, or that there is even anything to get involved in. I responded to pharesim's post with a similar message that Aggroed does not speak for Splinterlands nor for me. I don't want any part in what he is doing and wish he would have just stayed out of it.

I am not posting this to try to get anyone to support the proposal, I would not go asking or certainly not trying to coerce people for votes, but I feel like my character and intentions are being attacked as a result of what Aggroed has been doing and I just wanted to set the record straight.
@gwajnberg(77)· 765d
Well at least there are still people with beliefs around! I still can see good things in humanity! And thanks to bringing this new piece of information!
@sircork(66)· 765d
Expose attempts at tyranny at every opportunity! This is a prime example of the kind of vapid, distasteful behavior many have come to know and expect from that particular source. It's slimy and gross, been calling it like I see it since over half a decade ago now. And I am pleased to see more and more of this sort of thing being brought to light by people now currently in the kind of influential positions on the platform I once enjoyed here as well.

Fight for good, for the good of the ecosystem and expose systemic cancers when you see them.

Just like you have done here today. Much respect for your backbone. I'll keep an eye on you as I return to the platform and consider my witness choices. My vote these days is irrelevant, and small, but my voice is loud and clear. Choose your witnesses wisely folks and pay attention to the ones rooting out the contemptuous ones. They are the ones you want governing. Not the vapid bullies and platform abusers, and believe me, this is shining a light on just such an example.
@tsnaks(68)· 765d
I'm a support of Splinterlands and I'm voting for the SPL Proposal, but it's really sad that there are people demanding votes like this.

Every proposal should earn the liking of people in as honest way as possible.
@thelogicaldude(74)· 765d
You just got my vote! That is a slimy move on Aggroed's part and knows it. That is straight up corruption. It's dirty moves like this is what got him basically shunned from the top20 witnesses and majority of the community in the first place. Pretty sad and needed to be called out!
@nonameslefttouse(77)· 765d
Well, I guess that's one way to get support. Could always try the organic approach too. Thousands of players. Thousands of votes. I realize it's easier to talk to maybe a handful of large stakeholders but, one memo written several years ago, explaining things to thousands of people, could be considered efficient as well. Probably just as effective. Minus posts like these.
@rivalzzz(75)· 765d
This kind of shadieness is hard to beat. Aggy has always been like that.
@hallmann(80)· 765d
This is so silly that reminds me of something... :D
@cwow2(73)· 765d
fuck aggroed, that greedy cunt.
@mynewlife(73)· 765d
That is some dirty move and pathological way to push the proposal, I'm wondering how many whales got hooked into that bribing system. Even meta social media like for like has better attitude. We are not talking about hundreds of dollars we talking about half million dollars for game played by bots - to make you understand it this is around 100 boreholes in Africa.
@stickupboys(75)· 765d
Sums up how Hive seems to work
@femisapiens(57)· 765d
that is not good, but there is a lot of stress on both splinterlanders and hivers these days and some mistakes are inevitable.
@brofund(76)· 765d
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@dbooster(79)· 765d
Wow... corruption at its finest. We consider ourselves so much better on Hive than the government, yet we (I'm using "we" generally, obviously) engage in the exact same corruption. That message you received promising a little quid pro quo is disgusting.

Thank you for being honest and stating your beliefs. I just checked to see if I vote on you and I do so you already have my support. .
@steevc(80)· 765d
I'm not a witness, but I have had people DM me about my proposal votes. I make my own choices about those and the witnesses I support.
@servelle(71)· 765d
I'm not familiar with proposals and I'm discovering Return Proposal with your post (among other things). I hesitate to vote for it, as it would disadvantage small projects that don't have the support of those who consider themselves masters of Hive. Thanks in any case for your article.
@stayoutoftherz(80)· 765d
Appreciate your attitude! That message is unbelievable!
@theindiankid(69)· 765d
Maybe I don't know what's going around regarding this proposal, and I don't want to jump in between any heat but democratic views must be appreciated. I think for these things only we moved away from our predecessor chain.
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