#hive

And there I was, thinking i could avoid politics

I've never been a fan of whale voting deals and hive politics. As a decentralized platform, votes should only be given for causes we believe are beneficial for the chain as a whole.

A while ago I decided to take another attempt at witnessing and working on projects for Hive. The wiki hasn't gotten the traction I hoped yet (although it's about as much as I expected), but as a long term project I stayed dedicated.

That is, until now.

It started with a nice surprise.

I mean, who doesn't like some love being sent their way?

Unfortunately, the hive community isn't as mature as I wish it was. This became clear pretty quickly when I tried to find out what motivated this nice gesture.

Well, here we go again. Politics at its finest. My (in my view, valid) concerns with the proposal lead to losing funding for my work. This is all too familiar.

Once and for all, for everyone: You can't buy my vote. If you think my contributions aren't worth a top witness spot, don't vote for me. I'm totally fine with that. If you don't vote for me because I don't vote for you, there's not much more to say except "fuck you". If that's what you want hive to be, it'll be without me.

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@mammasitta(70)· 762d
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@shmoogleosukami(73)· 763d

Unfortunately, the hive community isn't as mature as I wish it was.

Actually.. It's aggroed that's the immature one here not the whole hive community.

And it's been know for some time that aggroed has been on a lot of people bad sides lately. because he seemingly does things like this that are morally questionable, politically motivated and just.. rude...

He probably genuinely wants to see hive succeed but there's much better ways to go about it.

Stick to your guns and carry on like you do!

^{I'm a hive witness supporting the blockchain.}
@femisapiens(57)· 763d
I reached out to you on discord.
@femisapiens(57)· 763d
@pharesim your concerns about the lack of detail in the proposal are valid.

However, many of the successful proposals also lack detail, so it seems unfair to pick on this one alone.

As a relative noob with only 70 HP, I have repeatedly been told by senior hivers that my views don't count. Just consider that for a moment!

I know nothing about the past acrimonies that riddle old Hivers, but it seems to predate the existence of Hive or Splinterlands.

All I know is Splinterlands is a great game and Hive is a great blockchain.

Please separate your personal feelings and support this proposal again...
@roundbeargames(73)· 763d
Hive needs more of this.
@valued-customer(75)· 763d
There's lots of things we don't agree on, but these aren't them. I find your actions admirable in this matter.

Thanks!
@woelfchen(73)· 764d
xd
@rival(68)· 764d
Have a good #beer together at #hivefest
@niallon11(77)· 764d
Whether you like it or not you can't avoid politics. As a top 20 witness you form part of our governance and with a large stake you have a big say in what happens around here.

You need to vote on each issue as you see fit but i would hope that you do so for the best possible reasons and with the best interest of the eco-system in mind regardless of how one person would act or not. Like aggroed or not but splinterlands and hive engine have been a big part of our chains development and how we can operate. They have added a lot to the eco-system and i do think that without their team we would be in a lot worse place at this point.

Very few teams have added any sort of viable business to the chain apart from splinterlands so i hope that they do stay here building and can survive the next year or so without having to migrate.

I still vote your your witness as well and have for a long time as i feel that you also add value to the eco-system and that is all we can try to do as a community.
@yabapmatt(72)· 764d
I also do not like to get involved in whale voting games and Hive politics, and I just wanted to say that Aggroed does not speak for Splinterlands and certainly not for me. I don't want any part in what he is doing and wish he would have just stayed out of it.

I also saw a comment here that you assume the funds will just go to certain people's private pockets. I can assure you that that is just completely untrue. I know that you don't know me and haven't closely followed what I have been doing with Splinterlands, but I can assure you that anyone who has knows that I have given up a lot personally and done everything I can since taking over the company to ensure that every cent we take in is well spent towards the goal of making Splinterlands a success.

I am not posting this to try to get anyone to support the proposal, I would not go asking or certainly not trying to coerce people for votes, but I feel like my character and intentions are being attacked as a result of what Aggroed has been doing and I just wanted to set the record straight.
@ph1102(79)· 764d
Thanks for being transparent... We need more of this on HIVE... You got my witness vote!
@ammonite(73)· 764d
Well, that's a shock.
@fixyetbroken(66)· 764d

As a decentralized platform, votes should only be given for causes we believe are beneficial for the chain as a whole.

This is what I learned here in the blockchain.😊 You cannot force a vote.😊
@thelogicaldude(74)· 764d
It's stuff like this and the fact that I don't rub elbows with many of the top 20 whales is why I have never submitted a proposal for Hivelist, BlockTunes, or any of my other Hive based projects and just bootstrapped them, which hasn't really worked the best either. The corruption level in the DHF is kind of mind numbing. Way to stick to your guns!
@por500bolos(68)· 764d

I've never been a fan of whale voting deals and hive politics. As a decentralized platform, votes should only be given for causes we believe are beneficial for the chain as a whole.

"To whom it may concern" ...Loose Nuts & Bolts for hivers and everyone else!

Yeah, later on, I may write a full post a bit more to the point.
@cwow2(73)· 764d
Holy fuck. Thats insane
@teamhumble(74)· 764d
you only have to look that the same people do the same events every year. it's a circle jerk.
@dbooster(79)· 764d
I support you completely. This kind of quid pro quo politics is disgusting. We as a community should be above this. But human fucking nature... as soon as money enters a system, corruption follows. I already vote for you so I can't add anything for your display of honesty. But yeah, I really appreciate your independence.
@actifraenk(66)· 764d
HOW DARE YOU

lol... as a bystander who has long given up on worrying about the petty politics around here... that's great popcorn! thanks for the chuckles!

on another note, I really wonder how they blew all the money they made during their bullish times!?! They seem to have a rather incredible rate of cash burning. In so far I fully understand why you'd try to prevent more funds going their way... fass ohne boden!
@stayoutoftherz(80)· 764d
Stay strong and independent!
@coldbeetrootsoup(76)· 764d
Sad to see this kind of politics... Thank you Pharesim for all your help ❤️
@borislavzlatanov(65)· 764d
I am sorry this happened to you. It should not be happening, but sadly it is. It's up to us to figure out what kind of culture and place we want to have. I just voted for you as a witness and unvoted aggroed. There's plenty of contribution he has done for Hive but sadly this kind of behaviour is something I completely cannot accept.

@yabapmatt Do you have any comment on this?
@mynewlife(73)· 764d
You doing right thing! I remembered when I questioned you about WIKI - in terms of explanation , you decided to regroup your post and make it more to the whole community to understand instead of playing weird ass politics or getting offended. All the heart I see in the communication after 5 years it's just sad reality which is not even politics, it's just poorly played politics.
@sanjeevm(78)· 764d

You can't buy my vote

And no one should try to, if they have good intent for the greater good of the community, it will automatically reflect. I was not ok with the proposal as well, and did not vote, but that's my personal choice.
@gwajnberg(77)· 764d
I thought that I was the only crazy that disliked the proposal… I think this proposal was the last drop that I needed to conclude that People don’t know how to write proposals, and in consequence people don’t know how to assess dhf proposals… if someone wants a grant to execute a project it needs to be detailed a couple of things… why your project is important, some background, what you foresee to conclude with that project and expenses discrimination. You cant say that you will need 500k USD when you dont know in what you are going to spend on that… how much in personnel ? Technologies needed to buy? Third party company hiring? When I saw a comment in the proposal authors saying that they don’t know exactly the costs and how they are going to spend that? Man… it could be Albert Einstein asking for a grant that I would still be against to do it. Sometimes dhf proposals looks a child play… and stakeholders think that hive tokens are like monopoly bank notes. I am not against the group asking the money, I hated the how mostly.
@moeknows(67)· 765d
I do not condone this. SMH. Why can't people just use their words! It's not like you're ask is unreasonable. I changed my vote to your witness, not that it means much.
@nonameslefttouse(77)· 765d
The bar was set at 29m HP the day the SPL proposal went live.

Today the bar is set at 24.3 million HP.

Were you voting for the return proposal before the SPL proposal went live?
@sircork(66)· 765d
I came back yesterday after 2+ years away, and this post was one of the first things I saw, well, actually I saw the slightly more spun and redacted version of it on the "other person's" post.

Some things and some people never change huh? Stand your ground. It's much better to be right, than to be popular. And you are doing a fine job of being absolutely right on this one. Good call.
@antisocialist(75)· 765d
IF the power pyramid was in total coherence we'd be in trouble. Corruption would settle in that we might never escape. Short of a fork.

On the topic at hand, I thought aggie got shafted when he got here. He was the only one developing things that came to fruition.

Smtees!™ Smdh.

8+ years to get smart contracts seems a little slow, too. We are still waiting for those to roll out functionality. Might be 9 years before we get them.

But, If you don't like how hive is managed, buy more hive.™
@novacadian(65)· 765d
The fork certainly showed the flaws of staked governance. How to balance the stake of the individual to the desires of the masses. Not sure a solution can be found. That may be the reason for Dan walking away from his little "experiment".
@splinterboost(59)· 765d
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