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#abuse

Dear SportsTalkSocial Members

Ash @abh12345.sports@abh12345.sports (59)2600d

I would like to discuss and present to you a problem which I can see affecting the growth of our community.

Firstly, it is not my wish to be someone who wishes to manage / control how our community acts, nor do I wish to produce this content over writing sports related articles.

However, for our community to grow and have solid roots from the start, we need to discuss and potentially take action when we see misconduct in our ranks.

Pending Reward Management

On sportstalksocial.com, we are each given one full and 'free' downvote each day. This means that we can reduce the pending rewards of a piece of content without reducing our 'SPORTS' voting power.

Abuse, as defined by clicking the downvote icon on the website is defined as:

# It is down to the individual to decide if what they see falls into any of the above categories - your vote, either up or down, is solely your choice.

With that said, I would like to give you a short list of links which in my opinion can be classified as falling into at least one of the points in the image above:

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Each of the links point to a short comment, 'hi', 'hello', etc, which have pending rewards I feel are too high. Personally, I think that the above is the equivalent of doing something like this:

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If you have time today, would you take a look at some of these links and if you feel that these potential rewards are undeserved, use your free downvote to remove some of the pending reward?

On some links, you will see a comment from myself which provides a reason behind the downvote:

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Sadly, the list above is only the tip of the iceberg and I am hoping that a moderator account will be used to find and help remove rewards with are undeserved.

Questions

Do you feel that a list of posts/comments which can no longer be rewarded via an upvote (older than 4 days), but can have the pending reward reduced should be released each day so that community members can easily check for potential abuse?

Do you feel that a moderator account should be used to reduce the type of potential rewards in the links above?

What else should moderators or communities members look for with regards to abuse?

Finally

It is possible for the sportstalksocial management to ban a user completely from the site. I would like to think that a decision to do this would not be taken lightly, but I wish to make members aware that it is possible.

Thank you for your time, enjoy watching one of the major events taking place today!

Asher

Comments · 31

  • @erikahfit(65)· 2594d

    Hi Asher! I've been traveling for the last 10 days and had just a few minutes a day for blockchain, that's why I'm late with my comment. It's very sad to see what's happening here. Looks like money brings out the worst of people. I hope these people are going to understand what's the right thing to do. You're doing a great job as always. Keep it up 😉

  • @joseph230(59)· 2598d

    I'm glad you moved this topic. If everyone will watch the sportstalk tag, we will be good curators themselves. I joining.

  • @blanchy(75)· 2598d

    Athletico 3.15 Beverley

  • @sportsreport(25)· 2599d

    I am new and not really sure what this all means but it sounds like a good idea to have people to review posts to make sure that the Trending has good articles to read.

  • @jonsnow1983(76)· 2599d

    We must protect our chain and stake from those suckers! Thanks for the heads up mate!

  • @arcange(79)· 2599d

    Congratulations @abh12345.sports! Your post was mentioned in the Steem Hit Parade in the following category:

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  • @giornalista(60)· 2599d

    I still think the sportstalk team has to orgatize a control group, delegate a certain amount of toekn for the downvote, create an official server to give the possibility of defense, create a team similar to @jaguar-force, I don't like to destroy , I prefer to build but if needed I am willing to help the platform.

  • @p-sycophant(53)· 2600d

    Despite all the good reasons for downvoting posts or comments, don't we think that upvoting quality content should be a priority?

    I have seen plenty of posts that imo deserve a significant upvote but don't get any. If we support those, especially in the early stages of establishment, the long-term impact will be far greater.

    I also question the mob/crowd tactics. Is it fair to flag up people and ask others to downvote? It may be straightforward in some cases, but in others, who knows? The examples listed are blatant (and justified), but not all I them may be.

    It makes more sense to me to have a cleaning service (as proposed) that can downvote on posts in a transparent way. This will only be fair if it is driven by the community and has transparency. That would also allow for an educational element (I believe in educating members first before handing out punishment) that would retain community members (by being welcoming) and improve quality overall. The SteemStem community is a nice example I think.

    Anyways, these are my 2 cents. In short, I support action on bad actors but we may have to organise ourselves to ensure fairness and positivity.

  • @uwelang(79)· 2600d

    Seems all these comments now are edited to "delete or Del" - is that something they did or a central community source?

  • @blazing(71)· 2600d

    That can only be possible with the help of community coming along a great platform this is time to make it even better : )

  • @gvincentjosephm(60)· 2600d

    I know your intention is good but it seems like the solution we're thinking can be like a two-edge sword. It has good and bad effect to the community as a whole. Do we really think that the platform can attract a lot of investors if they know that their potential profit can be downvoted? In some worst cases, others are just tripping those with smaller staked amounts. I totally agree that we need to keep the community clean and avoid abuse as much as possible but we should also be careful what we wish for. I'm hoping that downvote feature won't be used as form of bullying in the future. It would a waste if that happens.

  • @swolesome(60)· 2600d

    Just joined Sportstalk. I have seen platforms curbing this behavior early and preventing these abusers from becoming a minnow that snowballs into dolphins status. I won't flag blindly of course but I will be helping yall out :).

  • @talesfrmthecrypt(71)· 2600d

    Well said.

    Happy to downvote this kind of abuse or delegate to a central pool of SP with established community criteria for what constitutes abuse in order to prevent it happening long term

  • @akilie1029(59)· 2600d

    This is wonderful beginning. Those examples that you have are clearly mind blowing. I understand that there are some who puts so much effort in creating their original content, others such as myself tend to share videos via dtube, news via dlike and sometimes during my free time creates my own posts as well however the ones that you've linked above is way getting overboard. I can't believe that a simple "Hi" deserves a reward of 5k Sports. That's just unacceptable so I dropped it down with a beautiful downvote. I'll now be utilizing this "FREE" downvote on a regular basis.

  • @philnewton(58)· 2600d

    I was genuinely about to write a very similar post but thought I better check the trending/hot sections to see if someone had already done it.

    I have been noticing a few accounts spamming comments already with things like "Hello!", "Yep", "Hi" and it's really annoying.

    We need to act as a community moderation team in this regard and all do our bit to censor/devalue these posts.

  • @pouchon(78)· 2600d

    Good call, from their reputation you can tell they are not here to help. We should watch closely for these invadors. Keep on postin

  • @crypticat(74)· 2600d

    Can I talk about my amateur golf escapades there or do you glassify golf as a game more suitable for gg? Off topic posters deserve downvotes

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  • @rokyupjung(67)· 2600d

    Good work.

    We might need better curating! It would take a lot of time to read through many postings, which is not an easy job. You have put your valuable time to make this possible. Thanks. Today, I got rid of some of the participants on my SPORTS white list because of some posts that could be seen as abuse. It is very hard to monitor.

    Meanwhile, we have to think about how to reward newcomers who are willing to participate in this community. Without be rewarded, it would be hard for them to keep on. I am trying to list some of the newcomers on my SPORTS white list, but it is time-consuming. Still, I feel I need to do it. Not only is it important to reward high-quality postings but also we need to make all participants feel welcomed. It is my personal opinion.

    Thanks for putting your effort into it. We will keep discussing many issues needed our attention. :D

  • @serkagan(66)· 2600d

    Excellent review @abh12345.sports, I looked at your links to spam comments and noticed a strange tendency that all the enhancements in these comments make the same accounts, it looks like a voting farm!

  • @timbar(38)· 2600d

    I joined and downvoted all of them, I have to buy more token and delegate them to this account for more punishment xD

  • @hattaarshavin(74)· 2600d

    I really agree to downvote people cheating, this step I value is very good and also right.

  • @steevc(80)· 2600d

    I should have a lot more SPORTS soon, so can deal with these better. Of course people are going to try and game it. Can't they be excluded from rewards? I've seen that happen on Palnet.

    I could make another account for each token, but I really don't have time to manage that effectively.

  • @leedsunited(67)· 2600d

    Sorry I was a bit late to the party. Just dropped a full downvote on them all. If you, as an old and very trusted Steemie wanted to set up a Sportscleaners account, I would happily delegate 10 or 20K to it. If we could get maybe 10 plus nice people here to do the same, you could have a 200K Pot to use for downvoting. These farming circles are only going to become a bigger and bigger problem for the next few weeks while the token numbers settle down a bit. Also a coincidence some of these posts are also in Turkish and tagged TR as was the two accounts I pulled yesterday?

  • @uwelang(79)· 2600d

    Agreed in all aspects - joining in downvoting too.

  • @sportsgeek(63)· 2600d

    Will join downvoting - question, a free downvote here is still reducing the VP on Steem right?

  • @claudio83(82)· 2600d

    as already indicated to @cryptoandcoffee, it would be useful to create an account to report abuses or a channel on Discord where you can report misconduct such as those reported by you.

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  • @georgemales(62)· 2600d

    Very good initiative! 4 days ago i add my first post on SportsTalkSocial: NBA Loyalty and how it Completely lost it's Value! (i did not add a link because i did not want to be consider as spam)... and i worked on this post couple of good hours and did not receive not even one vote. Anyway i don't understand how those posts can get votes?!? I think the idea of ban a user completely from the site is an excellent one... and it will be very beneficiary in the long run!

  • @cryptoandcoffee(85)· 2600d

    Downvoted all of them and the one I added. Total bullshit and I don't care about my VP anymore.

  • @cryptoandcoffee(85)· 2600d

    https://www.sportstalksocial.com/dlike/@pele23/pubg7a

    A perfect example.

  • @michealb(67)· 2600d

    went and downvoted the first 3.