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Talking About It Doesn't Get It Done

Whatsup@whatsup (76)2692d

Oh no, not another post about Dlive and Pewdiepie:

There have been too many posts to count regarding Dlive and Pewdiepie. If you somehow managed to miss the story, DLive a former Steem app, managed to snag the top Youtuber to make exclusive live streams on their platform. The move has generated a lot of attention.

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I'm just going to say, we have talked about knowing Youtube is losing it's users, either by demonetizing them or banning them. We have said we should go after those users.

We didn't do it.

Dlive did.

I hear their site is looking good too.

Yeah, I feel a little envious.

Which brings me to another thought. A plan like going after large content creators and giving them rewards to hand out, so that they bring their followers, is a great promotion. However, it also has to be backed up with curation and platforms that work.

Before it can happen, It takes coordination and organization to plan, fund, and execute this type of promotion.

We have a lot of people who seem to confuse organized efforts with decentralization.

I'm convinced we can have people who are interested in promotional activities gather together for planning and funding projects without risk of centralization. In fact, I would say that is exactly what I hope the future foundation being planned by SteemAlliance will do.

It's hard for me to see a path for success if we do not organize and fund promotional activities.

What are your thoughts around organized projects with specific goals and outcomes? How would you suggest they get funded?

Let's talk about it!

@whatsup

Comments · 30

  • @steem-plus(74)· 2691d

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  • @coininstant(69)· 2691d

    What is dlive???, how come I cannot log in with steem, i thought it was a steem app? is there voting there??

  • @lordbutterfly(80)· 2691d

    ...The Dtube logo though. Completely eclipsed the Pewdiepie thing. My mind is blown...

    A plan like going after large content creators and giving them rewards to hand out, so that they bring their followers, is a great promotion.

    And how are you going to onboard them?

  • @arcange(79)· 2691d

    Congratulations @whatsup! Your post was mentioned in the Steem Hit Parade in the following category:

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  • @blind-spot(76)· 2691d

    I second your opinion.

    I strongly believe that the winning proposal will make very prosperous steps towards marketing and working as a collective to make sure good ideas get implemented.

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  • @the-oracool(65)· 2691d

    I was ringing the alarm that steem was losing out big time when Dlive left. Dlive was by far the best dapp on the blockchain in my opinion. People raged at me, then steem lost 70% of its value.

    It would be great if steem had a dapp that was even remotely competitive.

  • @kenanqhd(69)· 2691d

    Like it or not, DLive delivered a great product. DTubes interface is abysmal (but i heard they have a new patch coming out soon) and our sign up process sucks. I dont want flocks of people coming to steem yet because all that will do is turn them all off unless they are really into crypto. The average person sees all the bullshit that we try to ignore and moves on to something else. If more people knew about this place, it may feel more embarrassing to tell people you post here as almost everything is inferior to our centralized counterparts. Fact of the matter is, the majority of us that stick around are a bunch of socially awkward weirdos that dont care for much content other than content about our blockchain.

    I see hope in dapps like Partiko. They seem to be one of the only dapps (besides steem monsters) that actually knows how to incentivize users to sign up and earn points.

    I can act like im pissed and say “fuck DLive” but the truth is their site shits on anything this blockchain has right now, centralized or not. If our best feature is that “were decentralized” then this place is going downhill. Nobody except wackjobs/conspiracy therorists will gravitate here if we dont have a product that is enjoyable and easy to use.

  • @bitcoinflood(80)· 2691d

    I feel like they should be funded through deligations. if they are not holding up their end of the deal it's easy to remove ur deligation. It holds them accountable in a way.

    Side note I'm glad for dlive. It honestly shows a lack here on steem and where we as a community could do better. I'd be very curious to learn more about why they left steem and moved to other places. It could be a very good learning opportunity

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  • @steemitboard(66)· 2691d

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  • @theguruasia(69)· 2691d

    @whatsup, When STEEM up they come, when STEEM down they left! So peg SBD to $10 and see the miracle happen!

    Cheers~

  • @eaglespirit(66)· 2691d

    I was wondering what the fuss was about. I need a whiskey now.

  • @midlet(74)· 2691d

    I infiltrated DLive last night(made an account). I am jealous, and salty and frustrated to be perfectly honest. The site is beautiful. The signup was easy. I had to make a Dlive account as well as a Lino wallet, and I did both in minutes and they have instructions that are easy to understand and easily accessible.

    I think my biggest takeaway's from my experience there were

    1. There is no focus on crypto there. The fact that it's a cryptocurrency is a secondary afterthought. They are offering a service that is competitive with the current leader in that space. Blockchain and crypto enable that but, the end user doesn't necessarily need to know that. In their case they give the end user as little information about crypto and blockchain as possible as they have the entire flow from earning "Lino Points" to cashing out, worked out and integrated into one fluid experience.
    2. Decentralization is a strength for security and freedom, but it's a disadvantage for organization, cohesive vision, and precise execution. We seriously need like a think tank community to just think about and come up with proposed solutions for these issues. We're blazing trails and this is all an experiment. We need to adapt or die.
    3. I think a part of our evolution will be steering away from the faucet model. There should be more dapps that are their own thing and there should be a strong push to have an end to end user experience that is self contained in each dapp, from account creation to selling. We need to evolve from go to this site to learn about Steem, go to this site to make an account, go to this site to swap steem for something else etc.

    I should probably just create my own post...

  • @martinmcfly(60)· 2691d

    Recently RT joined here, I'm not fan of them, and although I like to think we do something alternative here, we could benefit a lot from a possible adoption of other media. I think good things can happen.

  • @mazzle(65)· 2691d

    Hmmm DLive have done well for themselves haven’t they? And their platform is very polished.

    I wonder how decentralised they really are though?

    It would be nice to see a group get as organised as they are to bring some decent names to Steemit.

    And maybe we should care more about the who we bring here as well.

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  • @itstime(61)· 2691d

    STEEM/STINC did it to itself , Dlive pulled a D-bag move but they followed up proper marketing and working product.

  • @newageinv(74)· 2691d

    It may be a great option but it will still be much short in the community aspect as that is something achieved slowly. The attention will also be brought to all decentralized platforms providing the same options for its content creators of censorship resistance and community based votes to entangled more of them.

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  • @practicalthought(67)· 2691d

    I covered this recently dissecting pyramids. Steem itself is decentralized, any company utilizing it for their business make that growth from it a form of centralization. If there is to be a growth off of Steem, there will be many centralized pyramids coming from it. But Steem is always the base allowing it, not the centralization or pyramid itself.

    I believe (and will be expounding on more soon) that smart business is to stop setting up a circle focusing within Steem and demonstrate and create apps that enhance preexisting businesses that already are solvent in their cash flow and seek to either use Steem to become more efficient in keeping more of their cash flow, or to increase the cash flow.

    There is no good reason this hasn't happened yet, other than a breakdown in skill sets. Programmers aren't marketing machines, or business people for the most part. Nor those others have programming skills typically.

    But we have enough proof that focusing inward within one of the preexisting pyramid structures like Steemit is not the way forward.

  • @mikepm74(67)· 2691d

    We still have Doug Polk and Trevon James don't we? I mean... aren't those big enough names for you????

    posted using the heavy sarcasm font

  • @stackin(78)· 2691d

    We had big youtubers here already such as Hodgetwins, Pete, Max K, Grant Cardone, Robert K and all the crypto influencers on steem. They all left as they don’t get upvotes as all the whales rather just sell there votes with bitbots. Who’s to blame, the community. Give me that drama token 😂

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  • @chesatochi(73)· 2691d

    People compare for this move but Steem will get better overtime.

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  • @bluerobo(70)· 2691d

    Yo! Talk to your buddy dRama. Maybe it gives you a hug. Looks real cuddly ;)

    Let's see if that this stunt sticks. So far it's just talk. Going after banned YouTubers and Facebookers looks a little short sighted. You may not like these platforms but you have to be a giant turd in order to get banned there usually. Is that the kind of authors that present Steem in a good light?

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  • @ganjafarmer(76)· 2692d

    Russia today and natural news signed on. Still trying to get my pekiti tirsia Kali friend to post...

    Hang on steemit is just going to go places.

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  • @oldtimer(76)· 2692d

    I read in one of the posts that Dlive got 100K new users next or even the same day. I'm almost sure that steem onboarding is just not ready yet and with the system in place with all these keys I'm not sure if it ever will be. Now you know why there is no promotion from stinc. I would be very happy if I'm wrong.

  • @lucylin(72)· 2692d

    Steemit is starting to feel 'old', somehow.

    Like a test case for better systems to come...(imho)

  • @rishi556(72)· 2692d

    @whatsup Get dRama sponsored by Gordon Ramsey.

  • @nonsowrites(76)· 2692d

    Question: can we afford top-notch influencers? Maybe we can but I would rather have the resources of the blockchain spread amongst more active users. What I see most times is that we are in a rush to nowhere. We are not ready for the type of attention we seek which will eventually come even if we are not conscious about it. These people who are being banned will need alternatives, we are creating that and most of what we are creating isn't ready for mass consumption. I don't care about Pewdie..whatever I don't even think dlive can keep him on their payroll for long, maybe that's not the plan either. I still consider this a win in some way for us. Other influencers/ YouTubers will most definitely be in search of other alternatives asides YouTube and dtube is an alternative. And we might not have to pay excessive fees to keep them because they will willingly land at our doorsteps if we promote our blockchain better.

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  • @sames(66)· 2692d

    I wonder how much Pewdiepie got from dlive/lino? Celeb sponserships go a long way as well with the other factors by others. Maybe the DAO and the foundation can make it happen? Who knows...

  • @abitcoinskeptic(75)· 2692d

    I agree huge failure of steem not to get him and others who've woken uo to the arrogance of centralized sns.

    I do hope we don't end up getting bottom of the barrel extremists either which is only bad news. I want the moderate trouble makes and those fed up with signing away their rights.

    Even if you think he has an army of 9 years old supporters, think of all the good it would do if they are buying steem just to tip him, never mind if he promotes on chain apps to play. Although I dont see any games with enough action yet to excite him or his fans much, it could come soon. Havig big shots on chain would encourage developers, too.

  • @ericwilson(69)· 2692d

    Ive seen it since 2018.

    They got a world class team.

    That isnt brown nosing.... Thats a fact.

    Pew going to DLive is the biggest mainstream thing to happen to crypto ..... Ever.

    Change my mind ;)

    Seriously though hmu if you wanna chat about it. Im a verified partner there.

    Also....for what its worth I tried to keep content creators to consider staying on Steem.

    It didnt work, know why? Tribalism on Steem and downvotes from whales.

    Just sayin.

  • @farizal(64)· 2692d

    I am just a poor minnow starting up here. All pleb like me can is to scream to those 🐋 with millions of disposable $$$ to onboard any famous celebrity because history teaches that celebrities will always attract millions of attention.

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