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Hypothetically Speaking on Curation

skramatters@skramatters (67)2559d

Just having a coffee thought here so bear with me. Let's have a fantasy where I'm super popular and like 90% of steem avidly follows me, so like 100 active daily users 😜 I kid I kid. But, seriously a vast majority of people follow hypothetical me and some little known redfish makes a post i feel fits my successful steem brand and therefore I want to resteem it. Let's say I've got 10k followers and the poster has only 100.

Since curation is about to become the big new thing it stands to reason as the resteemer with all the rich friends I should be compensated for sharing this post to my audience. Each of my followers that aren't followers of the redfish that upvote my resteem should somehow provide some kickback to me, easiest way is from the author as I'm the promoter right? Why should lil old poor redfish guy get 50% of the votes that wouldn't happen without my resteem?

I realise this is a real prick concept but if we are all in on curation why not open up this massive can of worms that i would imagine our intelligent blockchain could facilitate.. I haven't thought too much about it and I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed but if some influential whale got me an extra 9,900 eyes and upvotes I'd gladly kick down some of my creator percentages for the exponential boost.

Currently there's no real incentive to resteem, though I imagine with the new linear curve and 50/50 split that might change some. But it would really change if the authors paid out to what would effectively be organic promotion..

I haven't considered all the ramifications and repercussions but I do see a lack of resteeming and overall content discovery that could use some renovations. Of course it makes steem even more complicated but in principle if I own a venue where you can sell way more tickets I want my cut..

Tell me I'm a damn fool or something, I really wanna shake this place up even more while we're at it..

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Comments · 14

  • @wakeupkitty(72)· 2558d

    To resteem or not to resteem that is the question. Well many don't and @crypto.piotr once wrote about it. Who reads a resteemed post at all? Most people here do not. They follow the one's they follow, have a look at some their accounts who gave a comment (like I do with you now because it is easier with a slow connection to click on a name and wait 6 minutes as to leave the notifications and search) or they follow a certain tag.

    To be honest, I am not fond of resteeming and the only reason I do it (in most cases) is to make my life easier (read: slow connection). If I want to read something again, respond or join a certain contest I resteem. It is easier for me to answer or leave the link of my post behind.

    The whales won't starve as long as the plankton are able to feed them. The question is if they can and are willing to do so.

    I already read there is no profit for a whale to delegate to some plankton it is a bad investment.

    Voting will change too. Do not vote in the first 5 minutes or you and the writer get nothing.

    I read today (I believe I resteemed that) investors have no time to write... If the little old redfish gives up on writing there is no curation issue at all.

    Thanks for sharing your fantasy 👍💕

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  • @arcange(79)· 2558d

    Congratulations @skramatters! Your post was mentioned in the Steem Hit Parade in the following category:

    • Comments - Ranked 10 with 48 comments
  • @mondoshawan(67)· 2559d

    Yeah, you're a damn fool... :smirk:

  • @edicted(83)· 2559d

    Ah, yes, I've talked about this quite a few times. Curation should be an opt in mechanic and resteems should be a big part of that.

    Essentially curation percentages should get to be decided by the content creator. If I really wanted my content to reach a wide audience then I could set the resteem curation to 100% and all the upvotes that came in via resteem referral links would go to the resteemer. This form of curation makes the most logical sense out of all of them.

    These kinds of rules don't even have to be built into the steem consensus layer to start. In all likelihood, other coins built on top of Steem will try it first, and anything that shows high success rates will obviously be incorporated by Steem itself after it's been tested by a smaller project.

  • @tarazkp(86)· 2559d

    @edicted has some ideas about this.

  • @sumatranate(69)· 2559d

    Larger accounts definitely add value when they resteem, but I have a different twist on the idea. This is a rough draft of my current thought process, so any input is appreciated.

    What if there was a new resteem option that was basically curation with commentary. When a person selected this option, the original post that is being resteemed would be preserved in a new post (no changes allowed), but the "curator" would have the option to add commentary that would be placed at the top of the post.

    Now the "curator" (the person with the large account who just started a new post) would be paid directly because they have developed the network and have the influence, but an automatic beneficiary payment would be sent to the original author (example: 35% of author rewards)

    I see this as a feature similar to what Dlike.io does, but instead of including URLs from all websites, this would be exclusively available for Steem posts. Also, the original content creator would be compensated as well.

    Positives:

    • More exposure for content creators as their posts are resteemed.
    • Influential accounts receive direct financial benefit for their promotional services. The curated account gets an additional financial benefit for creating quality content.

    Concerns:

    • An influential user could attack a smaller account, but this can happen anyway. However, if someone does so using this method to attack, the attacker ends up paying the person he or she is attacking, which should curb misuse.

    Thoughts? Questions? Not sure if this is a good idea or not, but it has been floating in my head.

  • @steevc(80)· 2559d

    I wish we had resteem with comments to say why it's interesting, but that seems unlikely to change. I use resteem as a form of curation to benefit the author as I don't care much about my curation rewards. Those should increase anyway from next week. I maintain that our priority should be to make Steem a better experience by making the good content more visible. That way we stand a chance of retaining and gaining people who make it attractive and maybe that will help the price. Just aiming for personal profit is shortsighted.

    Just my thoughts.

  • @enforcer48(75)· 2559d

    I use Resteem as a way to show what I like or approve.

    It's a form of silent communication. But yes, I have relied on the Resteems of my Steemian friends to find other content because the meh nature of content discovery.

  • @evanstinger(60)· 2559d

    interesting thought, because exposure is a difficult bitch, it's hard to measure and harder to regulate

  • @j85063(70)· 2559d

    Something along these lines could be very good if it was automatically that one who resteems a post gets a certain % of upvotes from the resteem.

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  • @skramatters(67)· 2559d

    My man! Capped at half of 80 cents, anything over .40 goes right to you Mr. Promoter! 25% of the balance that is!

  • @abh12345(80)· 2559d

    If I Resteem this it will cost you 50% of your liquids 😛

    Resteeming will hopefully come into play more with 50/50 as the reward for finding interesting content doubles. I'm going to try to reblog a bit more in the coming weeks.

  • @justinparke(78)· 2559d

    As a content producer with basically no followers, I need curators to help expose me to a broader audience, and in turn make more $. The number one way I hope to gain a curation following is by always producing good content and posts. I hope this in turn causes at least some random curators to take a liking to someone not posting about crypto or how to build a whale.

    I am toying with ways of rewarding my followers/curators/readers/commenters as much as I can. At the moment I've spread myself thin, only able to commit 30% upvotes to several people who have engaged with my content. I am now thinking it would be better and more rewarding for both me to come up with a better system.

    I am thinking of requiring non-bot Steemians to follow, comment on and upvote each of my short stories to remain on some sort of VIP list or something. For people who do this, I am thinking of committing 100% of my upvote power to all genuine comments made by these users on my posts. I am also thinking that I have enough credit to also 100% upvote each original post they create on Steemit, and also try as much as possible to interact with original content my readers produce.

    This is the best I could do at the moment. I have no audience so resteeming and curating my followers' posts won't help at all. I can only imagine to grow enough SP that I can at they very least reward my loyal readers with $0.01 every time I upvote anything they do. It's really hard to know who helps you the most and who in turn to reward, as my upvotes are filled with bot accounts, and it makes it hard to see who is really a loyal reader on my end.

    Thoughts?

  • @aaronhawk(57)· 2559d

    Interesting... I never heard someone talking about a new resteem feature? Do you?