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My Thoughts On The Steem Hostile Takeover & Moving Forward

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My response to Justins recent blog post: https://steempeak.com/@justinsunsteemit/progress-being-made

I speak on behalf of myself only, as the 3rd biggest community elected proxy voter & I am the 3rd largest Steem hodler on the entire blockchain.

I leave emotions out of things and think of business logic first. I am not here to be anti-Tron nor do I have any desire to continue battling you if you were to remove the sock puppet witnesses currently occupying our blockchain.

In order to move forward, you will need to retract your "hacker" statements. Now that you know the truth those statements should be retracted and an apology is needed.

Steem has lived with the Ninjamined stake, promised since day 1 that would not vote and be used for community development. Steemit INC (USA based company) provided guarantees to the community about how the funds would be used. We never locked Steemit INCs funds, nor forked him out.

As a show of good fate, I would like you to remove the sock puppet witnesses, so we can talk on the same level rather than from a hostage standpoint.

"Meanwhile we would like to reassure you that we intend to commit to Steem for the long-term and we plan to bring a lot more value to Steem than even the value of our holding. We see the potential for growth here for both of our chains is tremendous and sincerely look forward to working with you on an ongoing basis."

These are the type of statements Steemit INC made since day one. That is why a lot of investors invested in this ecosystem because we knew there would be funding for future development. I would like you to publically renounce interfering in our governance with the Ninjamined stake. These are not demands, this is me letting you know what I would feel comfortable with as a large stakehodler on this platform. The current 30% of the Steem supply is enough to cause strain on decentralized governance.

In the town hall talks, you said you would be willing to donate a chunk to the SPS (Steem DAO) to help fund development and further decentralize the stake, as always intended. This would lower the amount you hodl thus lower the threat of a possible takeover if you ever go back on your word.

You ask us to say we won't support witnesses that freeze funds. Asking us to agree to that spins the narrative. We can agree that we started off on the wrong foot, there were no ill intentions at all. Ned did a shady deal without informing you, and with the hostile token swap/migration marketing, lack of communication, Zion account voting SRs in, Ned keeping all this a secret, and weeks of time passing, the witnesses implemented an easy to reverse soft fork. I, OF COURSE, would NEVER support any malicious witnesses that went "rogue" to freeze user funds. I have never voted for a malicious witness and I won't start today.

Regardless of the thoughts here, we can agree there was no ill intent. We simply wanted to inform you of what you purchased and see how you would react. From there we can either fork if we disagree and move on or work together if the plan sounds good. At least we wouldn't be blindsided. So if users want to "fork" out your stake, that would create a new chain and we would have Steem and the new chain. I would not support anyone forcibly taking anything away from you nor anyone else. From the VERY beginning, we wanted to know your intent. This is all voluntary.

Getting exchanges to vote was the worse thing you could have done and I hope you understand it is best to communicate directly with us asap when you have concerns.

With all of this said, of course, I would not support any witness with ill intent, meaning to cause harm to our blockchain.

Once you remove the puppets, and you do what you say you're going to do in that open letter, I believe there is a shot at keeping the community here. Any funny business and it will lead to a fork and split the chain. I believe a fork is ineviable at this point, but I will never give up on STEEM, and I will always vote for community elected witnesses here. If there comes a day you retake the entire network and force us on tron, I will consider it game over and would move on at that point. But as long as we have community elected witnesses that have even a remote shot at getting in, I will stay here fighting the entire time. We just want our home decentralized, we don't want 1 person to make all the rules. So if there is going to be a fork, and you're publically promising to do the right thing, it puts us back at the same place we were with Ned.

I really dislike Ned. I don't really dislike you. I really disliked a lot of what you said and did, but I am willing to give you the benefit of the doubt with the rough start. Regardless it does not matter what I think, STEEM is here, if you stand down and release our chain, let's at least see what happens from there.


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Comments · 52

  • @trendotoken(59)· 2358d

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  • @bigtakosensei(68)· 2358d

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  • @marcybetancourt(70)· 2359d

    Good communication full of good intentions. Rescue, at the end of it, and in total agreement:

    but I will never give up on STEEM, and I will always vote for community elected witnesses here.

    We just want our home decentralized, we don't want 1 person to make all the rules.

    but I am willing to give you the benefit of the doubt with the rough start. Regardless it does not matter what I think, STEEM is here, if you stand down and release our chain, let's at least see what happens from there.

    I sincerely hope everything stabilizes @theycallmedan

  • @howweroll(69)· 2359d

    Thank you for everything you've done, and are doing for this community Dan. What is your thoughts on doing some kind of crowdfunding so the community can buy the stake back from Tron, assuming they accept? Now that everyone is so fired up, I feel it's the perfect time for something like that. I'm by not means well off, but I'd dump everything I could into that myself.

  • @wattersblue(46)· 2359d

    Dan, giving your word is not enough in this trustless environment. You need to figure out how to guarantee that his stake will not and cannot be frozen again and he will remove his witness votes, it's as simple as that. He has said over and over again he doesn't want to be involved in the governance, he just doesn't want his stake frozen. Figure out how to trustlessly guarantee him that his stake will not be frozen again and the stalemate ends.

  • @thethreehugs(62)· 2359d

    Amen brother!

  • @gypse(43)· 2359d

    Ask everyone not to sell their steems on all 3 exchanges and ask for withdrawal

  • @dj123(61)· 2359d

    at this rate, justin will likely quit Steem, hence we will technically win inside of steem, but before he quits Justin will powerdown, and so will other Asian investors, and so will the koreans

    OR

    he will bring as many users from Steem into the Tron eco sphere before he leaves, by offering them Steem-tron Airdrop....which you will also take I'm sure, diluting the community's time and value, and increasing the Tron based community, then he will powerdown tens of milions of steem and leave, and hence we will technically win but only inside of Steem

    either way, justin wins outside of steem, the fact that DPOS favors oligarchy and the big stake holders means Justin will win somehow..... and I suppose so will you as long as you stick around to get his steem-tron airdrop, and hopefully he powerdowns slowly.

    the bull run of any alt-coins comes only when big investors comes in and don't leave immediately after benefiting

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  • @stellabelle(76)· 2360d

    ahahahahhahah THE ENDING IS GOLD! "STEP DOWN OR GET READY FOR THE LONGEST FUCKING BATTLE OF YOUR LIFE!" AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAH

  • @stellabelle(76)· 2360d

    wow. this is amazing. i'm speechless. true passion.

  • @gcalex(52)· 2360d

    I'm with you @theycallmedan, we've invested and been holding for too long to just let this fall apart.

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  • @fajarsdq(64)· 2360d

    I am only a small fish here, but I do not give up to always support the positive things for steem and steemit. even though I know I can't do much. but I can still help, even if only for the selection of real witnesses. I always hope for the best at Steemit.

    oya your steemit's name is a bit the same as one of the cities in the country. I was impressed when I saw your name, I thought if you were Medan.

    link maps kota medan Medan Kota Medan, Sumatera Utara https://maps.app.goo.gl/4KY36na9pieH8u886

  • @arcange(79)· 2360d

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  • @bmanmcfly(47)· 2360d

    I'm sorry Dan, while I appreciate your efforts, I think you fail to recognize the power dynamic at play.

    This isn't some 'fair' 'democratic' system.

    Justin is the OWNER now, like it or not, the rest of the platform is subservient to that, you saw what happened when the witnesses made a fork to protect the platform, you saw the 'resignations' that followed.

    Have you seen Justin's track record with his investment 'properties'?

    I'm sure many appreciate the fight you've taken on, the efforts will be futile in the long run.

  • @moeknows(67)· 2360d

    I felt like I was in church!

  • @sexyalenochka(45)· 2360d

    Crypto Batman 😂👊

  • @rhondak(68)· 2360d

    You speak for me, too. Well said.

  • @atomcollector(70)· 2360d

    Well said!

  • @nona99(42)· 2360d

    Good post

  • @theadmiral0(53)· 2360d

    What’s the likelihood he will do anything he says he’s going to do?

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  • @wawak71(4)· 2360d

    interesting also when I think about it, I also want to do it

  • @olegw(69)· 2360d

    Justin Sun sing Softfork song https://3speak.online/watch?v=olegw/gyrnovje

    Holographic Justin Sun sing popular Softfork song -Lets have some fun:) Although the situation is serious

  • @luca1777(69)· 2360d

    Speech like out of a Movie! Real Shit! I overstand Dan, who invested so much... but i'm not sure how much of a "Family" this place ever was or how much "business skills" the witnesses have/had... But what i always respected about Steemit (and also Threespeak) is the Freedom of Speech , we (still?) have here... This could be the most valuable thing here...

  • @chireerocks(75)· 2360d

    @theycallmedan, Definitely Sock Puppet Witnesses should go out and we should bring our Community Witnesses back.

    But in my opinion we need Improvements our side too because, if Witnesses are Community Witnesses then before Soft Fork they should have discussed it with Community, because Community have the right to Agree and Disagree beforehand.

    Steem is greatest Community out there but Froze Of Funds from both side in my opinion brought and raised concerns regarding Safety Of Funds on Steem Blockchain and for outsiders these concerns are very valid.

    I want to see Steem Culture like before and hope that we will see it very soon. Stay blessed.

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  • @cryptogee(76)· 2360d

    This is mental. In my mind, the witnesses need to give Justin his money back, they can then make demands from the moral high ground.

    Cg

  • @tngflx(63)· 2360d

    Let's send @ned to jail yo!

  • @whatamidoing(72)· 2360d

    Im Always skeptical about what witnesses and large stakeholders do behind the scenes (Not making any accusations) but it’s easy to see who cares about this place and I would much rather side with people who care. So despite my natural skepticism I have to admit that I’ve personally seen nothing but good from you, and I agree with your statements most of the time, especially right now. Thanks for speaking out man

  • @ultratrain(70)· 2360d

    Great response. I wouldn't trust a single thing Justin Sun says right now. If he was misled by Ned then you would think he would be unleashing all his fury in that direction. He wanted to take over, make money and move on to his next victim.

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  • @anaclark(64)· 2360d

    I sent you a message on Twitter. It isn't spam. It's important.

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  • @thehomiedavid(47)· 2360d

    This is one of the best posts I've read in the matter. I personally do like Tron & I welcome their community but both have to make amends to satisfy both parties.

  • @broncnutz(79)· 2360d

    Good work man, This needs to spread. Justin gonna lose all of us and all his investment if he doesn’t work with us.

  • @manniman(69)· 2360d

    You are freakn killn it! Stand strong, no backing down!

  • @steemmillionaire(70)· 2360d

    I selected you as my proxy voter because I trust your judgement and because you have a proven history of involvement in helping the STEEM community. Reading your post today, it makes me happy for my decision. Well done, @theycallmedan!

  • @justinsunsteem(55)· 2360d

    deep voice I AM BATMAN

  • @liliput(40)· 2360d

    In my opinion I would choose to fork out and start a new chain. We don't know what Justin would do next considering that he got the means and he could get hostile. We don't want anymore of that. Ned should face the consequences not the community

  • @tamiil(69)· 2360d

    This is a nice strong and clear statement I was hoping to see. Not some of the roundabout ones I was seeing that basically said "Justin bad" and not offering clear ways of moving forward.

    Funds safe, do what you want, if you screw with us you'll lose us. Simple.

  • @eirik(69)· 2360d

    I didn't know you are this big. Respect.

  • @yogajill(67)· 2360d

    Yes, standing down would be appropriate at this point Justin/ Tron! Let the witnesses and large stake get some sleep. I bet you could use some too! #onkill

  • @marki99(62)· 2361d

    Justin said he would stop voting if witnesses promise not to freeze his assets.

    Why don't we just compromise and make a soft fork that removes his voting rights, and exchanges' voting rights? This is what should have been done from the start.

  • @revo(62)· 2361d

    What about offering a concession to get Sun to offer a concession? Would a 4 week powerdown interest Sun at all?

  • @sharpshot(69)· 2361d

    This is great. I hope Justin wants to make money. There's no way he can win fighting the Steem community but we can all win if he joins us.

  • @papilloncharity(83)· 2361d

    I so sincerely hope that you can take a part in the talks that the witnesses have with Mr. Sun @theycallmedan

    I have a feeling that Mr. Sun is motivated by profits and if someone like you could bring him around to see that your suggestions can work, that he would be more amendable to participate, rather than to fight.

    I am known a straight talker and there is no sweet talk to win your favor here. Just matters of fact that affect all of us! Hope that this can come true! Blessings to your efforts!

  • @nonsowrites(76)· 2361d

    We fight together. For the love of steem.

  • @tommy-gun(44)· 2361d

    This community does not need a leader! @ned failed. Justin failed in a couple days!

    What we do need is Strong voices, thanks for being one @theycallmedan!

    With strength are voices will multiply!! Steemwar-on!

  • @stackin(78)· 2361d

    Resteemed!! The community needs to hear this! 💪🏼🙌🏼💯

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  • @jongolson(82)· 2361d

    "I'm a stubborn S.O.B...." LOL You and me both man...I think every single person on Steem that has gone through the bear market as well as this latest drama believe in something the rest of the world doesn't yet see...

    But they are starting to see it!

    And I have never been more honored to be a part of this community!

  • @honeybee11(46)· 2361d

    Think that about sums it up. In the style only you can do. I agree

  • @botefarm(70)· 2361d

    I have to read and read it again, you really pour out some emotions here and your feelings too. It's clearly written underneath your words. The emotions you have for Steem, the love that bind you to it to never see Steem fail.

    The good people of Steemiverse wouldn't let it let. If you don't give up on Steem, we can't give up. We are all in this together.

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  • @wonderwop(67)· 2361d

    👍👍

    !trdo

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  • @mattsanthonyit(81)· 2361d

    Absolutely we said. We must keep moving forward. Steem is not steemit

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