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It's not Koreans vs the rest of us...It should be us, united, vs a guy who's trying to tear us apart.

This isn't meant to be a novel. Just a reminder that no matter how stubborn or wealthy @justinsunsteemit might be, Steemians have been through a 2+ year bear market and they didn't quit.

They've been fed up with shit tons of lies from @ned, yet they keep fighting to keep this place decentralized, the very moment that even Steem's founder himself didn't want it decentralized. Who would have thought eh?

I don't know about you, but I don't want a HF. Seriously. I just want our "home" safe.

It's a shame really that the Korean community, who happen to have the decisive vote via the @proxy.token account don't feel the same way and prefer to maintain a balance so that neither Justin nor the elected from the community witnesses can HF the chain.

Isn't it obvious that Justin just doesn't give a shit about us? Regardless if you are a Korean or Japanese or an Italian or Nigerian?

He just doesn't care.

Ninja-mined stake aside, Steemit.Inc is his latest acquisition, right? I don't know about you, but whenever I buy something new I can't stop talking about it. There's not even a single tweet where he mentions STEEM, despite the governance issues. Have you seen any act from his side as a sign of goodwill to resolve this mess with minimum collateral damages? NO.

He doesn't even bother to update the damn feed price. How hard is it ffs?

I've watched the discussion uploaded by @ausbitbank and the least I can say is that I am disappointed...

He kept talking about shorter powerdown windows and what's good for the exchanges. Is this what a serious investor, one that would help Steem thrive would do?

I guess everything's fine and our only issues are a shorter powerdown period and what exchanges feel more comfortable with eh? Sheeesh...

3 new free listings popped up for STEEM last week. Those might be small exchanges with low volume and such, yet it's an indicator that Justin's "problems" aren't even an issue for the exchanges.

Unless of course we are only talking about his exchange, Poloniex, and what's best for him. Have you seen any demands from Bittrex maybe? Nope. What about Huobi? Nope.

Fuck the exchanges.

First and foremost he should care for what's best for this place. And he simply doesn't.

He doesn't even take the time to read and respond to some of the hundreds of comments under his post.

Nah...I don't believe a single word coming out of this guy's mouth. And Koreans shouldn't believe him either...

It's not Koreans vs the rest of us...It should be us, united, vs a guy who's trying to tear us apart.

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This is how rankings look like right now. And I am telling you, if @good-karma just crossed the 20K unique votes mark and at the same time the 2nd witness with more unique votes has 5000 unique votes less, then there's something we are doing wrong...and I have a feeling that we can still take back our home...

I am not telling you what you should or shouldn't do...I am simply presenting the facts...

Have a good one everyone and don't give up on Steem.

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@wiseagent(81)· 2356d
@mindtrap... Unfortunately, not everyone is understanding the reason for this war.
@kirpy0x(33)· 2356d
If your presenting facts then why keep pretending Justin just came in and did all of this as planned? He has a big stake in Steem and it was almost frozen... Nobody is winning right now and we're all too busy demanding apologies and leaving out facts to fix this.
@coininstant(69)· 2356d
Whatever I'm down for the new leader @justinsunsteemit, been following STEEMIT and the old witnesses all this time and they haven't gotten us anywhere! Now they trying to divide us even more with this fork instead of just leaving. Whatever we have been doing here the past 3 years has to change, It's time to start over, I'm staying, CYA!
@probablysane(50)· 2357d
Really gutted about it. As usual, the ones claiming to be the saviour are nothing but charlatans and thieves. Decentralised internet? The only thing Justin aims to do is centralise and monetise. Unfortunately sociopaths have no clue about the benefits of a true community. Really sad. Glad Steem saw him for what he is. Nothing but a crook. Gave the guy every chance to prove himself but he has let down at every opportunity.
@twinner(68)· 2357d
I like our Korean Community too, but just downvoted for disagreement for rewards.
@leprechaun(66)· 2357d
When Steem was quite new, flagging was discouraged except for "abuse." But I have been here a long time, and I have been flagged not by witnesses but by other users without an explanation.

I am not crying here, really. It's just that I bet this is not just my experience and for some it probably is much worse for them. If Justin Sun is arguing that he is going to get rid of downvoting, he is going to get support that way.

Look at this post of mine: Global Temperatures

Two down-votes: no explanation

One in Spanish, about Bitcoin in ARS. In retrospect, I hope no Argentinian bought BTC

Two down-votes: no explanation.

Not that I tend to get down-votes a lot, some subject matters bring this but the point is, I can empathize with the frustration for someone who is getting a lot of down-votes on his or her account on every other post.

You need to address why downvoting is good. Whaleshares is the best example why downvoting is good but its not enough to argue.

In UIs, instead of just a (V) to down-vote, have several down-vote buttons with each an explanation: A button that says "flagged because the content is pornographic", one that says "flagged because the content is hatespeech", another one that says "flagged because the content is a personal attack" (and is not about Justin Sun), yet another that "flagged because its fakenews", pen-ultimately one that says "flagged because its getting too much money", and finally one that says "other reason". At least a little transparency into the thinking of the flagger might be helpful. It might cause some introspection on part of the flagger as well. This can all be done without changing the consensus of the chain.
@konti(61)· 2357d
I've watched the discussion too uploaded by @ausbitbank I am disappointed too...
@arcange(79)· 2357d
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@leprechaun(66)· 2357d
The normal witnesses and the Sun witnesses had all updated the feed prices to about 14 US cents a Steem roughly as of last night March 12th, 2020. Yet this morning, the API calls return a price of 19.4 US cents. Right now they have a price feed of about 12.8 cents US / Steem. So, they are updating the price feeds. How long does it take for the prices set by witnesses to take effect?

At the top of this site the Steemfiles.com : www.steemfiles.com shows the steem price feed price as the "convert rate." It should be close or equal the price of Steem per dollar but it is really high.
@mattsanthonyit(81)· 2357d
This is so terrible. We need to get on our feed and work together as a big Community of Steem. Don't let us divide on what it takes tens of weeks to build

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@ocupation(71)· 2357d
I'm afraid hard fork is inevitable, regardless od what we really want. I simply cant find a single reason to trust Justing, not to even mention something like colaboration. He proved to be piece or shit i don't think anyone can convince me otherwise. He has zero understanding on how steem works, not in technical nor economy wise terms. Koreans are mostly angey on downvoting thing as it disables them to act maliciously and keep on extracting the value. Fuck this shit
@tonytrillions(68)· 2357d
Don't forget that your biggest competition is the person in the mirror. !giphy don't kill my vibe

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@nnnarvaez(68)· 2357d
my steem is trapped in binance i want to cry....
@forykw(71)· 2357d
Thank you @mindtrap for influencing me on reaching out more of the community. I have embedded a post of my own with some "attitude" and personality of the message I also would like to pass.

But mostly, the idea was also to capture first the ones that don't care about, and make them understand (in case they like my personal story about BEER) that users on the STEEM community have really great value and fight back for what they like most.

There is no reason why not everyone at this stage have not more voting VESTs as the fake witnesses. You either are with the community, or you should just leave.

Introspection... I know how it would be possible to kill some of these attacks in the future:
- Each user would only be able to cast vote for 4 witnesses.
- If a user does not vote for 4 witnesses, 90% of their rewards are burned or moved to @steem.dao!
- Voting decays or expires (up for discussion) after 1 year AND after every HF (whichever is shorter).
- If the voted witnesses become disabled and the user does not change the vote after 24 hours, then 90% of the rewards should either be burned or moved to @steem.dao.
I believe these measures will drastically change the education of the community. Initially it will some great impact on new users, but ultimately it will cleanse the blockchain from impostors and scammers.
@anglestar(25)· 2357d
Good idea.
@xplayer(25)· 2357d
In the event that anyway a HF happens, I trust the DPOS convention transforms into what I would call a REDPOS convention to keep away from future "suckpuppet witness" takeovers. textsheet
@rafalski(66)· 2357d
Koreans dont care about Steem, they care about money and raping the pool.
@lordbutterfly(80)· 2357d

It's not Koreans vs the rest of us.

But it is Koreans vs rest of us. Just because we might not want it to be that way doesnt mean that it is not that way.
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@metzli(68)· 2357d
Can we just take the (most decentralized) road that will get us back to $1.00 steem. I new new carpets before my baby is born in may.

Sheesh. It's been a long 7 months of blogging away waiting for things to get better.

May have to get a "real" job again.

Wah. Wah. Personal pity drama!

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@sinistry(62)· 2358d
I just saw this on Twitter and I agree 100%! Justin Sun isn’t looking to make anything better for anyone but himself. A few of us have started talking about organizing on discord to campaign against Justin and for STEEM. I’m following you on twitter and STEEM. Come join the conversation. 😁
@mamanovasim(62)· 2358d
you are definitely right. justin sun just want his stake that's it. he can't love steem because he only love his shitcoin TRX. peoples like justin sun just want to earn money they do not care decentralization or community, they want just money that's it. after steemit he will buy one more new project and merge it in tron and forget steemit.

Anyway very good post, shared on twitter

► https://twitter.com/paise_kamaye/status/1238303301160128513
@joeyarnoldvn(68)· 2358d
Some people prefer safety and that is why they favor Sun. But freedom is better than alleged security and protection promised from centralized authority, government.
@denmarkguy(79)· 2358d
You're certainly right about a lot of us having been through a lot of turbulence with this gig... and I'd like to think there are enough of us here who have invested enough faith and sweat equity in making this community something worthwhile that we can also do what needs to be done to ensure it has a decentralized future.

If there was one thing that always made me a bit nervous about Steem "way back when," it was that Dan often described it as an experiment. There's something about the word "experiment" that suggests something that can be discarded; something that is the "prelude" to something, but not the actual "thing."

I think we've proven ourselves worthy of being much more than just an experiment. Those of us who kept going when things crashed. Those of us who kept creating when Steem fell to 7 cents. Those of us who didn't rage quit every time the upper echelons instituted a change that messed everything up.

This is a community of communities. Like a city has neighborhoods. The Korean community is still part of the city... and if the city crumbles, ALL the "neighborhoods" lose.
@forykw(71)· 2358d
Yeah... I think this all means that we should target users that use the @esteemapp. I will try to write up a post and promote there today or tomorrow. Been distracted with this market's thing, and the whole methodology around it from COVID-19.

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@trafficinsider(48)· 2358d
As with most things involving humans, Steem is not a single community but a collections of tribes made up of people who have different interests and desires even within each tribe. While you may get a majority to "rally round the flag" temporarily, in short order people will return to pursuing their own self-interest. Such is the norm for the human experience and not necessarily a bad thing.
@pianopiano360(35)· 2358d
yeah we stay storng together :) #strrong
@abitcoinskeptic(75)· 2358d
Imo the people dissatisfied with hf 22 and the freedown vote pool know their days are numbered, especially with talk of using smt to reward, rather than steem (something we should do straight away if forking).

I think the timing is right now. No SMT that sells votes will be worth a penny since it is only a one way street without a reward pool to exploit. This isn't antibusiness at all. It is antiabuse. There are hundreds of chains that support business amd they can sell SMT like mobile games amd reward soft currency, buy proper ads on frontends or pay people (>like you and me<) to write ad posts. They are just here for the community, they want to exploit, not to play fairly.

If I'm wrong people will agree to wait 6 months until after SMT is released before wanting to reevaluate EIP model. They are just trying to 'double-team' the community with justin and don't care if he screws them for dessert.
@filotasriza3(72)· 2358d
i just took a little time off and this is what i am coming back to? :P
@hobo.media(64)· 2358d
Well here are some more facts...

A lot of people disliked the free downvote mana bar, but they weren't powerful enough to stop it. A lot of people believe Steemcleaners is corrupt, hypocritical, tyrannical and the opposite of decentralized. A lot of people found the #NewSteem movement to be aggressive and ugly. A lot of people left due to #NewSteem or are here but only half here, emotionally.

The Korean community is a large part of that group of people, but not alone in that sentiment.

Many people, I included, feel that Steem has been dominated by a small crowd of anti-business tyrants that ruin the whole blockchain and screw Steem's future.

How do they screw its future? Compare the rewards distribution of major stakeholders on Steem vs the Crypto Youtubers. The Crypto Youtubers are famous among the whole of the crypto industry with many followers on Youtube, Twitter and Facebook. But these people barely make anything and rarely touch trending on Steem.

Why is that? Because this place is nothing more than a big circle-jerk, wherein the key players keep milking the reward pool in hopes that it won't end soon. They know they are not rewarding top talent, which is bad for Steem in the long term, but they are really about the short term gains. Instead, they keep upvoting each other, people that are nobodies on Youtube or Twitter with subscribers only in the hundreds at best.

Justin is not probably good for Steem, but a lot of us are at least glad to see the old hierarchy getting broke up. And if he sells off his stake it will mean low prices for a while, but it could also mean much more decentralization.
@clixmoney(78)· 2358d
Notice that he's not even active for 5 days ! Imagine that !

For sure he doesn't care at all about us all.
@onthewayout(62)· 2358d
A fork is inevitable, every day that passes the suckpuppets earn +4k steem. Plus all the people that are supporting them (korean or not) are just in the way and I don't think that they will change their stance.

We should just fork-out everyone that is voting for Justin Sun and if they want to join the new chain they can buy in. We can just dump the old steem and use it to prop-up the value of the new coin.

The real battle would be to get the fork listed on exchanges.
@roberto71(36)· 2358d
Steem is a good project with a lot of potential to grow but without many exchanges to support it, like many other projects, it is broken by the bear market, apart from many witnesses who are never in agreement, neither for the good nor bad changes, I hope this will be resolved soon to be able to be united if this ship stops going aimlessly.
@chesatochi(73)· 2358d
I love Steem as you do even if at the moment the situation is becoming boring.
@argsolver(53)· 2358d

I don't know about you, but I don't want a HF. Seriously. I just want our "home" safe.

If however a HF takes place, I hope the DPOS protocol turns into what I would call a REDPOS protocol to avoid future "suckpuppet witness" takeovers.
@wattersblue(46)· 2358d
The Koreans don't feel the same way because they have been bullied and ganged up on for the last year by many of the previous top witnesses and their friends. I can't blame them for wanting something different than the status quo.
@discernente(77)· 2358d
He proved many times he doesn't give a shit about our community. All he wants and cares about is our governance in his hands, no matter what. Unfortunately to him Steem is just a small competitor to his main interest that is Tron.
@resiliencia(75)· 2358d
Never give UP!
@reviewzzz(68)· 2358d
you Have done good work fighting the coup and we will continue
@mindtrap(75)· 2358d
There...for the Twitterland

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