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The winners and losers of living in a decentralized community

It is interesting to see how people are still posting on Steem with many not knowing what has even happened in regards to the hostile takeover of the chain. The Tron foundation has potentially "tricked" the stake on exchanges to power up and vote in 20 new witnesses and hardfork the chain into a new state. That state is centralized.

One of the things that the Steem blockchain is designed for is decentralization, and while it can be argued that it is currently centralized, it doesn't have to stay that way. There are always options and one of the things with the decentralized design is it can be much like hydra. Even "owning the chain" doesn't stop the community from sliding away. This would mean a fork.

While a fork would create a new chain and hence, a new token, running two, three or 10 chains is possible with each having their own pros and cons. In some way, it is similar to creating multiple SMTs, each with their own capabilities, strengths and weaknesses. The difference would be that instead of them all riding on the one chain, a major strength of SMTs, they would all be independent without the ability to crossover smoothly between - a major limitation.

The problem is as I stated in the first line, people have their habits and there are many who can't even use different interfaces, let alone cross over onto a new chain and "start again". Remember though, a fork away from the Steem blockchain doesn't exactly mean starting from zero, as it is possible to take an earlier position in the chain and keep everyone's stake intact.

But, the start again means that there will not be the exchange support that Steem currently has and this will of course have an impact on price as access to buy becomes more limited. How limited? it is hard to say.

There is very little to gain from forking other than proof of operating and participating in a decentralized community. Yes, the code has proven to be able to be vector attacked, it doesn't mean that the community need to bow to a new leader.

STEEM IS OPT-IN

Remember this.

No one has to stay here and while I do understand that people will generally follow the money - freedom still matters, and a lot of the dApps are created in order to protect our content. Our content IS safe, it might just end up existing on another blockchain and under a different name.

Whatever happens, if and when there is a fork of the chain, changes will have to be made to make sure that this doesn't happen again, this has to be a learning experience. The first thing I would change is the number of witness votes, which I pushed for over two years ago for this precise issue and vector - albeit, I didn't factor in the exchanges. However, this also would give us the opportunity to remove that massive ninja-mine stake once and for all and take away the temptation.

My 2+ year old take on witness voting May 2018: https://steemit.com/steemit/@tarazkp/discussion-to-change-witness-voting-procedures Oct 2018: https://steemit.com/steem/@tarazkp/reducing-the-number-of-witness-votes

Start learning

What I think people need to do is be prepared by starting to learn about what all of this means. Vote for witnesses https://steemitwallet.com/~witnesses that aren't currently in the top 20 as they are all the same person.

Proxy me if unsure

If you are unsure, you can proxy my witness vote for a little while and it will vote on real witnesses. Just scroll to the bottom of the page and type my account name in and your witness vote will follow mine. You can remove it at anytime later.

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Now, when it comes to the future of Steem, that is quite unsure. However, the future of the current Steem community needn't be as heavily affected as it may seem. For content creators, it could be a relatively smooth transition over to a new chain with a new name, much like a rebranding. If this was the option that took place, those who make the move would essentially be saying that they are digitally free and can't be shackled by the power hungry.

There are many people here with a lot of different perspectives, but near uniformly, they all want what is best for the value of the community, because the value for one, is the value for many. At least, that is the way a decentralized community should be, and if Justin Sun will not opt-in to a decentralized community with decentralized governance, he might find that the value of his purchase is a lot less than he expected because, the community is the value - and if the most valuable members leave - he has a handful of code in one hand, and his penis in his other.

I don't want to go anywhere near his penis, so he better opt into the decentralization aspects of the community and release the code and allow it to develop so that he, nor anyone else could do the same thing again.

Learn and adapt.

You are the community. We all are. The decision is yours to own or be owned.

Everything has risks, every move has costs.

Taraz [ a Steem original ]

Onboarding

Comments · 29

  • @sarariflo(25)· 2360d

    Do you know the tragedy of libertarianism?

    It is this: Libertarians love the free market. But the big players on the free market don´t give a f*** obout their libertarian dreams.

    I think it is time to stop whining and accept the fact that a blockchain can be sold and that this is not even a bad thing.

  • @valerianis(64)· 2365d

    I have just voted!!

  • @heartbeat1515(65)· 2365d

    I believe that I am one of those who are posting without realizing what is going on in the blockchain. I'm having difficulties to understand some words like centralization and decentralization. I'm not sure what is the meaning for both but I'm going to find out.

    I heard about voting witnesses and I too will be going to look more to that. For now, I think I'll follow your proxy first. I'm giving my trust to you until I understand whatbis actually going on.

  • @joeyarnoldvn(68)· 2365d

    I would encourage people to do both. Some people should try to fork. That doesn't have to be a bad thing. We already have some forks, like Weku, Bear Shares, Smoke, Serey, Dream Real, etc. But at the same time, some of us should still be here on Steem voting for witnesses, etc, just like people should post on Bitchute and should also be on YouTube at the same time. Steemit will always be the YouTube of blockchain social networking, meaning they will always be the pioneers, the first ones to do it.

  • @krazzytrukker(70)· 2365d

    proxy'd

  • @worldtraveller32(64)· 2365d

    many things are coming

  • @arcange(79)· 2365d

    Congratulations @tarazkp! Your post was mentioned in the Steem Hit Parade in the following categories:

    • Comments - Ranked 3 with 129 comments
    • Pending payout - Ranked 6 with $ 56,98
  • @massivevibration(56)· 2366d

    Learn and adapt. You are the community. We all are. The decision is yours to own or be owned.

    Wise words!!!!

  • @rcaine(69)· 2366d

    I wish I had read this post before I voted. I would have given you my proxy.

  • @leprechaun(66)· 2366d

    Everyone is welcome to vote me in as a witness. If the unlikely event happens that I end up in the top twenty, I will buy the hardware with my credit card and support the community. To do so without being in the top twenty would be economically fool-hardy or as my wife would say "stupid."

    I was running steemfiles.com which used to give people the ability to buy files with Steem Dollars a couple of years ago. It didn't work out economically but I was running this out of my own pocket without being a witness. If given witness I will maintain a node in the South of Argentina, instead of San Francisco. That's decentralized.

    Running a Steem node is an expensive enterprise. If you want to throw $400+ on a server per month hosted or run your own which should be about $2000 up-front cost and then something like $50/month on Internet, you are welcome to but it's probably a waste of time and money.

  • @evolved08gsr(58)· 2366d

    So.. remember that time I said Tron owns Steemit... And therefore owned Steem.. damnit 😕

  • @julianhorack(76)· 2366d

    Blocktrades doesn't work today, saying steem token is "under maintenance" so all our steem in our wallets is stuck. We can't even sell if we wanted to. We have been hijacked, every one of us with any steem. For how long I wonder?

  • @fionasfavourites(77)· 2366d

    I made a similar remark on another post @tarazkp - the little fish are caught up in the maelstrom and most pay little attention to what happens with the governance. Or owners of Dapps. Some of us are just interested in blogging on the blockchain because we like to do that, and it would be really nice to get some return.

    I have, in the past, said how I loathe the backbiting and bullying that happens here. However, it's not unique to Steemit; it's rife on the interweb. At the end of the day, it's the little people who come short and those with the power and who shout loudest, who win.

    For the moment, I'm still conducting #OperationOstrich and will see what happens when I dare to raise my head above the parapet. With apologies for all the mixed metaphors and thanks for keeping watch on things.

  • @auzifalevi(46)· 2366d

    Lol! I can't sell

  • @honusurf(62)· 2366d

    They could always trade the fork coin on steem engine. I don’t think i will leave to the fork since i was already threatened to be forked out of the fork today!! The same people that downvoted me here will be in charge there so doesn’t make sense for me, but hopefully they won’t take my fork coins?? Either way it sounds like the fork would be centralized unless they fix the system.

  • @artemislives(74)· 2366d

    Great post @tarazkp - I think there is a HUGE divide between the witness community and the nerdy inner crowd, and the rest of us. I have asked several "leaders" in my steem world about how to choose witnesses, and simply been told to use them as proxy. That doesn't work for me.

    The witnesses must take more responsibility for explaining who they are and what they stand for, to empower better and more responsible voting.

    I'd love to see you taking some leadership to make this happen.

    Much gratitude from a solo mom in Thailand who errs on the luddite side of town. :)

  • @wittywheat(69)· 2366d

    I don't want to go anywhere near his penis

    ROFL! Men are so sick. They design everything to look like the "P." Everything revolves around the "P." For example, the Trump tower, rockets and missiles. Men are always comparing the length of their "P." Coincidentally, P also stands for power.

  • @tezmel(70)· 2366d

    I am waking up to shocking resignations and chaos in discord. I have never looked for your timeline that fast.

    That was some move after sweet talking the same community through some solidarity letter. Too fast. I hope it all works out for the better. I hope the community stays. I am going nowhere myself.

    Quick question though...

    Vote for witnesses https://steemitwallet.com/~witnesses that aren't currently in the top 20 as they are all the same person.

    What do you mean the same person? How fucked am I right now though? Look at what I did last week (7 days ago to be exact!)

  • @ainsuphaur(53)· 2366d

    Why not vote in a massive move on 20 dead accounts to take it back?

  • @michealb(67)· 2366d

    to me steem witness proxy voting is the same thing as what just happened. giving your vote to someone else to vote?

    edit: all just on a smaller scale

  • @fenngen(72)· 2366d

    I go where the community goes and crosspost content here to leech Justin's reward pool :)

  • @sumit1998(67)· 2366d

    Awake from sleep and what I found that the f**ker has tried to do illegal things to our steem chain active on Twitter and tweeting about this

  • @d-pend(76)· 2366d

    Another thing. I have been expecting a scenario similar to this the whole time I've been on Steem because of how low the market cap is. Wasn't hard to realize that any interested billionaire could take over relatively easy by acquiring a huge stake, esp. if acquired under-the-table from the premined portion thus bypassing pump/dump market mechanics.

  • @bashadow(70)· 2366d

    There is one thing that could be done, a letter to Microsoft, asking them to block Tron and Steemit from git-hub. Microsoft has shut down other developers, so that could be an option, I don't know what would happen but if only the HF 22.5 or whatever Sun called it code is blocked on git-hub, then the original code might stand a chance of being re-implemented.

    So another Knee-Jerk reaction, I hope there are fewer and fewer of those as time goes by. Maybe in the future developers/front ends other than steemit will be allowed to put forth code changes to the witnesses. I semi-remember that steempeak had some they were planning on for after the SMT hard fork.

    I think the users may be able to move past it all, but the trust that was shaky to begin with, is on very soft ground and to many more tremors may just liquefy the ground it is sitting on.

  • @d-pend(76)· 2366d

    It becomes tiresome eventually listening to everyone screaming and running around like chickens with their heads cut off. Then again, it's good for mental development to weigh various arguments and think critically. In my case there is a large gap in knowledge due to not being a dev that causes me to be ignorant to deails. Plus, knowing that even Justin Sun is a small fry monetarily compared to trillionaires makes me think it is folly to pretend to comprehend the politics going on multiple orders of magnitude above my stake in the world financial game.

    I'm not so bothered because Steem has been totally corrupt the whole time I've been using it; it's been tainted since day one and plagued with basic game-theory-breaking flaws. I was here anyway because of the people I met (community) and the magic of being involved with what felt like a new paradigm of valuing human attention/energy. Probably, I have been enormously naive, but have gained a lot from being around. Mainly, connections internationally with like-minded individuals I never would have me otherwise.

    Am likely to stay in touch with them and hopefully meet in person, circumstances permitting. That will occur regardless of chain politics. Also, will eat, live, sleep, work regardless of what happens here. Perhaps it comes off as apathy, and to a certain extent I suppose I am essentially unmoved by these developments since I am looking for a long-term evolution in the consciousness of humanity that is likely to take far, far longer than my short lifespan, anyway. Growing pains, collective lessons, etc. are ongoing and to be expected.

  • @chesatochi(73)· 2366d

    Do you think the chain split will occur before the end of the week?

  • @hone.heke(48)· 2366d

    This has never really been a decentralized platform. And to be frank I was not at all impressed with the governance structure. imho the old regime was doing all it could to prevent mass adoption. Maybe the New Regime actually wants to build something helpful to the world. But maybe not, only time will tell.

  • @abh12345(80)· 2366d

    Bringing out the penis references, must mean business this evening :)

  • @meesterboom(81)· 2366d

    If they fork it I still reckon a large percentage will stay here especially if money starts getting pumped into development.

    A funny thing I have noted from people talking about forks and forking out STINC'y stake is a reluctance to talk about other mined stake. I would fork all mined stake and get all that nonsense out of the way. Granted they never promised to develop the chain but they did get a fair wodge of return out of running that mining for some weeks.

    If the decision is taken to fork then let us be bold. Let us not be apologetic. Let us truly start the right way.

    Holy shit, I was practically standing and shouting that last bit. I think I need to lie down... :OD