scrobble.life
Scrobble.life

Some thoughts on the centralization aspect of the scrobble community

As some of you who've been following my journey into AI coding know, scrobble started off as a small project mainly about logging music aka scrobbling, but I hate just being a copycat of something else, i.e. last.fm or other similar scrobble sites. I didn't see any sites that offered logging of more than just music, and by combining the web scrobbler with the trakt scrobbler (both open source), now combined into hive scrobbler, it allows for automatic logging of both music and videos. Thus scrobble.life extended into more kinds of media.

That's not to say that scrobble.life is similar, it does still offer the benefits of the hive blockchain to those with a hive account (for now), while guest accounts can only scrobble and leave on-site comments but accrue passive hive rewards from their activity. These things aren't something to scoff at cause ever since I started creating this project there's been mass migrations, a lot of copycats being launched (especially now with AI coding) due to the mass migrations cause these former projects would change the rules and limit what users can do unless they pay them more. What sets scrobble.life apart is that it managed to have users using it, which 99% of copycats never get to, and the best part is that people started using it without any rewards to be had, they simply liked the idea and vision; to log your media in one place and on chain, so that if my website or myself ever go crazy and start charging people for simple usage or perks of the site, they can take their scrobbled data and move on to another website here on Hive directly. That's something many of those mass migrating users cannot do and have lost their data in some worst cases.

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I've also been trying to stay unique in terms of smaller services/games the site offers, and not just copying whatever is popular on other pages or already existing here on hive, not everything needs a blockchain.

My point with this post, however, is that while I've tried to let people posting about certain kinds of media on other communities, it may not be easy to always curate those posts compared to them being in one community: scrobble.life. This does not mean that we want all posts to come through our community, we just haven't gotten around to figuring out a good way to not miss posts posted through us onto other communities yet and to be honest, even only curating posts in our community it's been costing our voting power quite a lot as the amount of users becoming active there has been staggering. Price fluctuations can sometimes skew the rewards a bit, you always wanna give posts more when curating with a big project which has been hard to see in times like these that even our max votes it'd only be something like $10 in author rewards, but we hope that with price correcting on the upside soon it'll allow our voting power to recover as well as we can give users more respectable amounts of rewards (even if we mainly look into hp rather than usd - we understand the psychological effect when most front-ends display usd value - which is why scrobble.life has opted for HP instead).

Another thing I wanna mention about the centralization aspect is that, while we've tried - with ocd - for the longest time to diversify communities we curate and empower their leaders and curators with extra voting power, these markets have shown that not everyone survives them. There's been many times cases where amazing communities we've put so much attention, voting power and curation thought behind have simply just had their leader vanish, leave the curators without any control/keys/power and thus the community whimpered a slow death. This always stings as it feels a little bit like a waste, sure the communities mostly are there and no leaders have gone rogue/bad actor to purposely mute posts or alienate users, but without someone at the helm steering the community it's mainly a shell of its former self. For that reason, after all these years, I've kind of come back to think that maybe it's not so bad if a community encompasses more if we know that it's going to stick around and not just die off for random reasons.

I don't know, haven't given too much thought into it, but it's nice to see how fast and large the community has grown in such a short amount of time at the worst of times. I'll try my best to steer the project in the right direction while staying true to its vision, scrobble everything in life worth scrobbling! Thanks to everyone using it and using it well!

I have a few updates coming up soon, some of you may have already noticed them on the site. There's also a big update I'm waiting on a bit that our mobile users will like, the reason for the delay is that a very own hiver/scrobbler has been working on his own mobile solution so I wanna give him time to announce it before I include guides on how to connect your scrobbles to mobile using his solution as well as existing ones!

Comments · 12

  • @skiptvads(74)· 12d

    getting caught up with Hive and everything else tonight, after 2 months of working on @rustedwax I have been barely posting, I have been watching content though but not that much neither because all my effort has gone into generating the code, still I can easily watch 2 - 3 1hr episodes in a day, the main reason for this is because Im an IDLE IT guy, nothing breaks Im all Hive, so I got time to watch content and come up with a good post, but I do have my doubts about certain posts from time to time that I just avoid upvoting, to the point that I have though about building a "post evaluator" a mechanical process at least that goes beyond KE, do know someone on Hive has one of this, I might even opensource it tbh, that would help people have just an idea based on basic account and post metrics of when to or not upvote a post that looks a bit just a bit fishy, btw thanks for waiting for me, it was 2 crazy months, today is 2 months on the dot when I literally started

  • @nattosenpai(75)· 15d

    I arrived a little/quite late to comment on this post, but I always take my time to read you well and understand (since English is not my native language) before commenting. But anyway, days go by and I forget to read your posts, sorry. 😅

    But anyway, getting back to the topic you're talking about here, I understand your concern about the lack of control and categorization or moderation of the content shared in the Scrobble Life community. Personally, I think they have done a great job, especially considering how popular and busy the community has become. However, it is true that I would like to see better distribution or moderation with regard to the type of content that is shared.

    I have nothing against anyone, I also post daily on Hive and I have my own goals and priorities. But I've noticed that some users have posted anime reviews, for example, in the Scrobble Life community, knowing that The Anime Realm exists. This isn't an accusation or anything like that, but I remember you mentioned a time when everything related to anime could go in the anime community since it's "still active."

    And since I have no problem with any of this, I have continued to publish my anime reviews on TAR. That's why I pay attention—as any great anime connoisseur I am—when other users talk about anime in the Scrobble Life community, and some even refer to them as "TV Shows," which in theory That's not bad, since most anime are broadcast on television in their country of origin (Japan). But most, not all.

    Anyway, another thing I'd like to know is about the music issue; what do the Music Zone community choose when posting about music, and not the one called Music? I don't know if there's a problem with the owners of that community, but anyway, I only post about once a week on Music for the TTT contest, that's all. I've also noticed that some people talk about music in the Scrobble Life community. Here we return to the main theme of management or moderation that is lacking regarding the content that is allowed or not allowed to be uploaded in the Scrobble Life community.

    I would like the Scrobble Life website to have the option to upload an anime or music post to its corresponding community, and not the option to publish it on Scrobble. More or less like it was a while ago, for example. I repeat, I have nothing against anyone, I'm just saying this because of the issue you mention in your post about not being able to prevent all kinds of audiovisual content from passing through the Scrobble Life community. Or maybe I misunderstood that part. 🤔

    In short, it would be great if they made some kind of agreement or consensus with the communities related to the different types of content that can be uploaded to Scrobble Life so that they would allow that posts uploaded to the website are published in their corresponding communities. Then, what would remain would be the curation work on the part of OCD and other moderators. But hey, there are communities whose owners haven't been seen or active on Hive for ages. 🥴

    Excellent work, as always.

  • @cositav(73)· 19d

    I’m reading the comments on your post; the project has undoubtedly been a huge success, thanks in part to the rewards. However, many users who have always created their own audiovisual content are now part of this community—which is a significant achievement—and have realized that their work is valued, which is fantastic. The key is always to give your best and remain committed to Hive and the community. I know everything will turn out well and that, should any abuse arise, it will be handled in the best possible way. I’m also glad that we’ll soon have better options for mobile users; that will be another major milestone. Best of luck!

  • @mariiale1979(71)· 20d

    This is the good news I’ve been waiting for with that mobile update; I’ll be able to get on with things much better. I haven’t been able to register via my computer; I’ve got the extension installed, but the keychain can’t add the account. I’d like to congratulate you on your work and dedication.

  • @hivebuzz(74)· 20d

    Congratulations @acidyo! You have completed the following achievement on the Hive blockchain And have been rewarded with New badge(s)

    You received more than 680000 HP as payout for your posts, comments and curation.
    Your next payout target is 685000 HP.
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  • @yusmelys(70)· 20d

    Excellent, my friend. I hope the projects you have in mind come to fruition. Thank you for your great work, and I wish you much success because everything points to it being so. Scrobblelife It's great to feel supported and rewarded; it's a great incentive. If before I wrote and wasn't valued, being here makes me feel much better.

  • @bozz(83)· 20d

    I've been poking around scrobble a bit more now that I know it has expanded. I was still kind of disappointed to see some folks starting to post three or four times a day for the upvotes they were getting. I have a hard time believing they are actually consuming that media and not just throwing out synopsis that they grabbed off the Internet of any new movie or show that comes out.

  • @intishar(76)· 20d

    Honesty, I didn't pay attenion at first but later when I thought I am keeping anime,movie,music rating type record in other sites, why not keeping it in scrobble. It will be kept for forever and I won't lose those data anytime. In case of growth of scrobble, I am indeed impressed.

  • @uyoho(66)· 20d

    Well done for all the development that has evolved in this platform

  • @wiseagent(82)· 20d

    I think is right to say Scrobble Life has become a much bigger project than your own predictions, @acidyo. In such a short time, so much has already been done. Congrats.

    When we talk about upvotes and rewards, here’s just a simple suggestion (but one that I believe to be fair and efficient): users who publish quality posts and who keep a real commitment not only to the project itself (but to Hive, as an ecosystem) itself should be better rewarded.

    The project isn't just about getting good upvotes and rewards (but we all know how important and motivating this is). It goes far beyond that. We need to help one another; for instance, simply claiming rewards and selling them doesn't seem fair to those who contribute to strengthening the ecosystem in the long run.

    Once again, well done. Long live to this (quite revolutionary) project!

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  • @les90(74)· 20d

    There's no doubt that scrobble.life growing faster i think these projects like Hive grove gaming and scrobble.life are just like hope for people to stay on Hive, in this era of Hive when people are leaving Hive it is the reason to stay here and enjoy the perks 😀

    I'll like to have a update on mobile scrobble because I used it on mobile phone

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