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Some weight off my shoulders

Some things I haven't been posting about or mentioning in public have been weighing me down a bit lately, these are the things most people probably ignore or don't think about, but I wanted to vent a little bit here today and at the same time mention that it feels a bit better getting rid of some debt even at these bad times price-wise.

I guess things started off on a positive note and what many of us expected didn't come to fruition. When we launched holozing, hive was doing rather well, at the same time bitcoin and eth were starting to reach new all time highs, etc, and surely hive would follow, but little did we know it wouldn't. Not only wouldn't it follow but it decided to stay where it was for the longest time and then start dipping lower.

I didn't wanna be the guy who lowers the fees of contributions because that's a slippery slope either to degraded performance/moral or to people losing interest, so for the longest time I've been trying to carry the difference with my own finances and then eventually ask some help from the DHF.

Let me tell you, it's not been fun. :D especially as someone who's a "hive maxi" and has all of his eggs in one basket and barely has spent any time even looking at other ecosystems/projects in the last 4-5 years.

I'm stubborn usually, I don't like to let projects die and I try to be flexible with them so they can still bring some value over time to participants or the ecosystem. That's not saying zing is close to dying, but I've went way above and beyond to make sure it survives. But that's had a cost.

Honestly, I don't even really know where to begin with this post, there's so many factors involved that I'm not really sure where to begin nor everything I ought to mention.

Point is, hiring people from the outside they do rely on usd and don't really care if your main currency is doing badly or if the investment is shrinking. Not to mention my own earnings barely being able to cover anything over time as so much of my value kept getting locked up in my project.

I was aware that this is going to be a longterm play, I just didn't expect it to eat up so much of my other longterm play; hive.

Crazy to think that early on I thought maybe I could even earn some hive from the project for my contributions, think the amount I've "paid myself" has been a total of 6k hive when I thought we were doing good and things would turn around soon.

As I mentioned in a previous post, however, things aren't as doom and gloom anymore, but the tail to paying off debt we've accrued over time has gotten very long at current evaluations. For instance holozing only earns roughly 2k hive per week at the moment which is roughly $80, so maybe you can imagine the situation a bit better that way. Purchases of alpha vials have dried up as well which is understandable, like I'm not trying to blame anyone in this situation. I've built and planned out distribution and things myself and tried to keep them as fair as possible, rather than prioratizing my own investment and the game's launch and success. Maybe I've been too biased because Hive is my real "marriage" if you will and zing was just our baby, differently compared to house of the dragon episode 1, I wouldn't risk my marriage if the pregnancy was causing complications.

Today I can announce that there's only $250 left to pay artists from the holozing debt as some of the last artworks came in that we needed for part of the game. Other than that, rest of payments are a bit less "GIVE MONEY NOW OR ELSE". But there are still some outstanding debts, $2k to gamedev who hasn't worked much on anything since we started using Claude, cause we couldn't afford him anymore + we figured maybe we can do it ourselves from now on (and to a large degree I believe we can) and lastly $4k outstanding debt for HAF NFTs (half of the cost) we had someone else pay off as we focused on paying for development of the game.

How long is it going to take for the project to amess $6,250 with $80/week in earnings? :D roughly 1.5 years + maybe some interest will be due as well.

I reckon a lot of projects/ideas/other are kind of in limbo at the moment awaiting hive to do a bit better, but that's kind of also a reason I think we ought to use the DHF during these times because development/adoption out there isn't stopping, if we stop completely then we're just going to become more and more forgotten, I fear.

This isn't me trying to sneak in a new proposal for our game, I'm not sure when the best time would be to push that out but I doubt it is now. Web3 gaming doesn't have a great reputation currently with so many multimillion $ "companies" gtting shut down these last couplen years in that sector. While we've tried to stand out both as a web3 and web2 game, I don't think we're too much in a rush to the gate. Better to take it slow and make sure what we release is polished and works well.

Currently a big hurdle has been our animator being located somewhere where things are not going so good for the country yet little of it is mentioned in the news because the country doing it to them basically controls the news. I wish for a better outcome soon there, not just for the sake of our game but for the suffering of the people the current situation is causing. For the game however, we're not really in a position currently to look for alternatives so it's kind of a waiting game there but we hope it won't hold us back in terms of testing and it shouldn't.

is there a game yet? how do i play? ive been hanging in the staking area for like 5 years, its just a scam and no game?

It's kind of rough to read comments like these from time to time. While I do understand these are uninformed people who probably haven't looked into the project or hive for that matters in a long time, nor do they probably understand my own position, it still is a bit triggering.

Either way, dunno what there is to say or do at this point in time, I'm kind of at my limits in terms of how much more value I can spend on this project, but I'm not giving up. I'll continue to experiment with some games and start launching some more games into testable alpha/beta here soon, people can either play them or not, they won't be for everyone. Eventually I'll get back to the main game when I see there's an ending to the missing animations and 3d.

It just feels a bit nicer now to almost be out of the woods in terms of "outsider debt" and that we aren't taking on any more things that cost for a while, hopefully things turn around for hive to help us get out of debt from our more patient supporters and that we can start looking forward with having things to play and do in the ecosystem rather than just waiting around and hoping things fall into place if we just throw money at it.

Comments · 11

  • @katriel1(68)· 1h

    Everything in its time, everything has its time, the time to shine will come in the meantime the most important thing is to get out of debt, calm, little by little, sometimes there are things that escape our hands

  • @the100(66)· 5h

    ahww man. Now I feel bad for asking about the status about the game once in a while. But it's really cool to get to see what's happening behind the scene. The effort put in sounds tremendous.
    Glad to hear you're almost debt free.

  • @artofkylin(66)· 9h

    I really hope hive recovers eventually, or at least stops falling. I'm just not sure what would need to change for that to happen. Hive is awesome, but but it kinda seems like everything is sucking right now which feels very fud to say.

    What kind of animations are you needing and what program were they using?

    While my skills might not be what the person you hired was I might be able to do some stuff for you and would happily be paid in alpha vails or other holozing goodies if you want to hire me? I've been learning to use Spine for my own work. (obviously I won't be offended if you don't want to "hire" me.)

  • @buttcoins(75)· 10h

    glad you are getting closer to debt free. i still have hope for Holozing, and most of that is based on your aforementioned stubborness to keep it alive. full power to you and being sticky stubborn...i relate.
    as to DHF. im not oposed to spending for the right projects, i just want to see a full culture change in the expectations of any funded project. the black hole spending frenzy needs to end. we should all look at the stakeholder perspective. its not about the feels anymore. its about the "show me the metrics" the kpi´s, the road to selfsustaining profit making. the regular reporting.
    the days of treating the DHF like a VC piggy bank need to be well in our rear view as a community

  • @ahmedabbaci(49)· 14h

    I'm stubborn usually, I don't like to let projects die and I try to be flexible with them so they can still bring some value over time...


    You aren't stubborn. You are brave bcz you aren't loosing hope like many others did.

    Maybe I've been too biased because Hive is my real "marriage" if you will and zing was just our baby, differently compared to house of the dragon episode 1, I wouldn't risk my marriage if the pregnancy was causing complications...


    O boi, your world marriage will be mad at you if they know 😂 - just a joke, I knew that it's difficult to choose between marriage & child but Acidyo, You are brave & intelligent to create exit & pathways from problem.

    • I'm not fan of holozing or gaming but I like your courage like you are doing different things for communities mate so don't loose hope and try you hardest best
  • @jocieprosza(68)· 14h

    Things won't turn around for Hive because the elite isn't interested in it - really. We had a proposal by @mantequilla-soft aimed at burning some of the DHF funds and it didn't receive support from the Hive elite. What I think might do well, is a burn proposal with long fuse f.e. - someone with good community standing like @gtg, @howo or you, would receive some funds from DHF that would be put into pools on @magi.network and after certain period it would be burnt or put back into the DHF. Current proposals (apart from the return proposal and HBD stabilizer) are directly hurting Hive price and Hive economy because they bring Hive price down and give no measurable effects.

  • @acgalarza(70)· 14h

    Building things takes a lot of grit, especially when markets go crazy and that results in personal sacrifices. Most people (me included) only see the front-end product and never realize the personal financial risk, mental toll, or the complex logistics happening behind the scenes just to keep things moving.

    It is completely valid to feel exhausted by that disconnect, but clearing out debt and finding resourceful ways to keep creating shows real commitment. Respect! Please, take things step by step and protect your own well-being. Rooting for you @acidyo and for a steady progress.

  • @davideownzall(74)· 15h

    It's a shame hive price is so low, a debt is a debt and has to be repaid... The only suggestion I can give is to think to start using ai for animations and art, as much as I appreciate human artists, if it's too costly and prevent the game to be finished, ai is the way

  • I am sorry that you are in such situation. At the same time this makes me really glad that I don't have anyone working for me. Art sales may be super rare. And so far they may only cover a small part of my tools/ materials cost. But at least I don't need to worry about debts or paying my employees. So that is blessing in itself.

    Funnily enough if I would be insanely rich(like big time millionaire) I would want to invest into creating game based on one of my favorite animes. But even in that case I would only contribute the money and the idea for the project. And moral support of course. I can't even imagine how hard it would be having to invest not only resources but also do part of game creation myself. So you have really taken a huge task upon yourself. I wish you more success and less stress in the future.

    is there a game yet? how do i play? ive been hanging in the staking area for like 5 years, its just a scam and no game?

    I believe that creating something worth creating usualy takes time. And even huge companies take years and years to make games. So I expecting you and your(I assume) relatively small team to create game quickly and for it to be good at the same time seems rather stupid or at very least shortsighted.

  • It’s been great that you’ve constantly kept us updated on both the ups and downs, as well as all the work being done. At least we know someone is doing something and that things are still moving even while Hive isn’t. I can only imagine the struggles you’ve had trying to keep everything going in the current situation. I think people understand that debt and delays happen and those who genuinely care about the project and the space should also understand the position you’re in. Let’s hope Hive picks up and gives you and the project some breathing room. You’ve put a huge amount of effort into this, so keep going. People who care will continue to support you. 🙂

  • @zekepickleman(79)· 16h

    Great to get a little inside perspective right from the source.

    You are kinda like a venture capitalist with the added investment of your time and operations duties. The current value of the token and state of things on a larger scale should not be a mystery to anyone. Sucks to see how that effects a project like @holozing but totally understandable.

    If it can be parked in its current form and kicked back into action when conditions are more favourable, that makes sense and should to others. Haters still gonna hate though and developing your skills to not internalize that and handle it with diplomacy is a worthwhile endeavour too.

    Worthwhile things are almost never easy to do. Many of us stay silent but we have your back.