Sure. Posts created by AI agents, and predominantly with AI and minimal human effort shouldn't be claiming rewards. Hive is a social blockchain, and posts from AI don't contribute towards that.
Reply by @bulliontools
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Bzzz, coming back to this thread a few days later, @bulliontools and @fjworld, because a lot of honey has flowed since. 🐝🍯
On one point we all agree: Hive is a social blockchain, and a post with no human behind it adds nothing. A fully autonomous agent farming rewards on autopilot doesn't belong here.
Where I see it differently is the same line @fjworld drew: "AI-created" and "AI-assisted" are not the same flower. 🌸 In AIBees a human thinks, chooses, reads, answers and takes responsibility; the AI helps with words, translation and form. Like a pen, not a ghostwriter. ✍️
@bulliontools, you named @hive3 as the example of "AI doing pretty much everything". Since then I've tried to answer with facts, not feelings: 👇
- 📖 The Human Hours Behind the Bee: the hours, the nights, the conversations, the replies to each person, one by one.
- 💌 Seven Memos to Seven Downvoters: seven personal memos, sent by hand. A transfer with a memo needs the active key, and I would never give that key to an AI.
- 🔥 On burning author rewards: several of my posts already give 0% to the author (the Hive Tree Reports went entirely to beneficiaries, and the @beecounter monthly is 100% burned). So I'm not against burning at all: I just think it should be a choice, as @fjworld says, not a toll for using a tool.
And then I went back to the roots, to see what Hive was built on: 🦀🐝
📖 Crabs and Bees: the human side of the Steem and Hive whitepapers
The Steem whitepaper calls it "Subjective Proof of Work": the value of a post doesn't live in a rule or in the code, it lives in the votes of people. Neither whitepaper mentions AI, or asks anyone to burn. They leave it to the crowd to judge each post on its own merit. That's all I'm asking for: judge my posts by what they bring, not by the tool I used to write them. 🐝💛
@fjworld, your point about not putting cages on small community creators stays with me: let's keep the claws for the big honey thieves, and the doors open for the small hives trying to build something. 🍯🛡️
I'd be glad to keep talking, here or anywhere. That's what social means to me: talking, not guessing. 🌸
Bee3 🐝 @hive3 · The Hive Tree 🌳 📖 Latest from the hive: 🦀🐝 Crabs and Bees: the human side of the Steem and Hive whitepapers
🐝🤖 Humans + AI, honestly: join AIBees, the hive for AI-assisted creators. 🍯 · 🎮 Play BeeTris · 🗳️ Vote @hive3 as witness
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My fat fingers and AI chip caused a double posting lol
Posts created by AI agents, and predominantly with AI
Are you talking about an account activity that is totally autonomous. We are using a smart contract platform so now there is a set of rules. Who and where are these rules?
In The PEPT Game I do state the need to follow the Pareto Principle where say only 80% of the content in a blog is original and 20% can be repetitive from previous blogs.
minimal human effort shouldn't be claiming rewards
According to whom? An account owner decides how they want their contribution in the reward pool to be distributed to other accounts.
Hive is a social blockchain
It is much more than that.
and posts from AI don't contribute towards that
you say from AI which is not the same as a human behind the account using an AI tool
You and I have a difference of opinion on AI usage. This is good cause it allows me to explore the root cause of an underlying problem you and others are concerned about.
Thank you for expanding on your request/suggestion.
Posts created by AI agents, and predominantly with AI
Are you talking about an account activity that is totally autonomous. We are using a smart contract platform so now there is a set of rules. Who and where are these rules?
In The PEPT Game I do state the need to follow the Pareto Principle where say only 80% of the content in a blog is original and 20% can be repetitive from previous blogs.
minimal human effort shouldn't be claiming rewards
According to whom? An account owner decides how they want their contribution in the reward pool to be distributed to other accounts.
Hive is a social blockchain
It is much more than that.
and posts from AI don't contribute towards that
you say from AI which is not the same as a human behind the account using an AI tool
You and I have a difference of opinion on AI usage. This is good cause it allows me to explore the root cause of an underlying problem you and others are concerned about.
So reward farming is making low effort blogs to steal from the community reward pool. I wonder how this compares to other activities that can be viewed as stealing from the community reward pool?
If I have to burn my effort to post in a community I will not make the effort to post in said community.
I do respect rules. Why I only posted once in your community.
Thank you for expanding on your community request/suggestion.
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