#hive

Bye Hive

I have done my best to express how much I care about Hive, that I am a vocal advocate for your platform - I've been advocating for Hive since day one and did not once attack the platform as a whole. Please go look into my actual posts, suggesting that targeted harassment is a barrier for adoption.

This was not an attack on you.

My suggestion to look into the behaviors of the social space came from a place of love for you guys, and wanting you to be able to see a larger consumer adoption.

If you follow my content you know that in addition to speaking up about Hive on my own platform, in every interview I've done since Hive started I've spoken about how wonderful this community is.

Instead of listening to these ideas and trying to find ways to solve the problem of harassment from large stakeholders, I saw the problem exemplified 10 fold. From hateful comments calling me a slut, cunt, twat, bitch and whore - to disgusting videos made on Threespeak insinuating you pay me for sex, Blocktrades even suggested I leave social media as a whole. You suggested it's my job to come up with a solution for the problem I was addressing - it is not the sole job of the people enduring the harassment to come up with solutions.

The outpour of hate and harassment I received across platforms for suggesting that behavior of stakeholders is a barrier to adoption is incredible. My entire statement was that people will be deterred from the platform if you continue to act this way, it's a self fulfilling prophecy.

I am very sad to see how this has turned out. I wish you guys the best in all you do, and do have much love for those of you who supported me in my time here.

The rest of you can kick rocks.

Appreciate the run guys!

Comments · 35

@poshthreads(74)· 1281d
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@wil.metcalfe(62)· 1780d
Whew! She quit and she left feedback. If we were listening we would realize that innovating a user-friendly response isn’t about telling people how it is... it’s about listening and learning how we can make Hive EVEN BETTER!

Ever walk into a store that has $hitty customer service?

What’s the 1st thing that they do wrong?

They tell the customer HOW they should be experiencing the store rather than listen to understand.

THIS is a problem that stems from the DV actually... I believe the current DV leads to a hole bunch of group (Hive) think. If everyone thinks exactly the same... no one is listening, learning, and innovating! NO ONE!

Value within a community like this is all about the ability to coexist respectful with people who have different ideas. Those ideas TOGETHER become bridges that lead to a brighter future.

THIS is how smart people innovate and communities of people who don’t tolerate other view points... they are fragile at best... toxic at worst.

Come on Hive!

We can do better than this!

It’s time to stop all the talking and do some listening!

We can’t continue to loose high value accounts like this.

This doesn’t make for a Hive that sells and markets it’s self...

Think about that for a min.

This should inform EVERYTHING we do next.
@lookplz(63)· 2229d
You call it "hate" because people didn't respond well to your playing the role of a "victim" and bitching and crying constantly, because someone didn't like your shit. This isn't kindergarten little girl, grow the fuck up. If words affect you so strongly, then YOU are weak and that is the real issue. You're not going to be treated any better anywhere else if every time someone disagrees with you or rubs you the wrong way, you start crying and whining like a child. You're going to get treated exactly the same. You were only here for earnings and it was evident through your many-ref-linked posts and by how you're leaving now because you "cared too much" or some other retarded shit you expect us to eat up or your low IQ following to eat up. It's just dumb as shit and obvious. If bernie had been talking shit to you, but upvoting you all along the way, you'd definitely stay and entertain it and you're a fucking liar if you say otherwise. The problem is that in places with no centralization and censorship, no one can sit there and play the parent role and protect you from "hurtful" words like they do on centralized social media. The problem for you, is that people here didn't entertain your childish bullshit and your ignorant and obvious lies of words and you didn't like that. Go ahead and sit on twitter and instagram and other shit where you'll never make what you could here, all because you were weak and couldn't handle a bit of criticism or foul words. Boo hoo, not considered a loss for me. We need less crybaby bullshit in the crypto space and you were damn sure full of it. If you can't handle trolls, toxicity, cursing, and the likes... then just get the fuck off of social media altogether, because that's how children who cry and whine and never grow up, get treated across the internet. You being weak, inadvertently, makes people WANT to fucking bully you. Why? Because bullies only bully the weak because only the weak give serious reactions to basic things. Have some introspection for the future, please, and stop playing a victim and placing blame where it doesn't belong. I'd love to have you here, but not acting like a child and whining and complaining about people saying WORDS that you don't like, to you. Boo fucking hoo, get over it. It's called "mute" and it's been an option since before hive even existed. You are CHOOSING to see the words of others on here, considering you can mute them, and CHOOSING to ignore the audience you DO have, that cares about your content, by leaving and forsaking them because of your own selfish pride. Don't act like a victim here, when you made yourself into one. It's a bad look and it's a pathetic way to live life. Smfh.
@pfunk(73)· 2231d
DLive? lol. You're moving to a platform that literally stole people's funds. Completely illegitimate. If that's who you want to be though, nobody's stopping you.
@valued-customer(75)· 2233d
I'm aghast. I've never even heard of you before today, and I find out you were here just as you're leaving.

I have missed my opportunity to apply reason to your emotional diatribes, to scorn your quasi-prostitution, and reject your claim of victimhood. I am desolate at the lost opportunities to promote sound values, thick skin, and independent means to your vapid followers, some one or two of which might have been able to grasp the potential benefits of those principles that have enabled humanity to survive genocidal warfare, plague, and geological catastrophe.

But I won't miss you.

I'd like to thank, again, as I did just a day or two ago, @xxxxxxxxxx for flagging me incessantly. I get a warm, fuzzy feeling inside when I know they care so much that they attend to my every post and comment. I feel so important!

Just in case you actually read this, the factual reality of my gratitude exemplifies that it is not what happens to you that degrades you, but what you do yourself. My posts and comments aren't diminished by being opposed. To the contrary, it is the insipidity of the opponents themselves that best recommends my observations.

Thanks for leaving and not bringing a bunch of vapid thots and coomers here to transform our sanctuary for free speech into a groupthink hellhole and soft porn site.
@thoughts-in-time(68)· 2233d
Hey, @cryptofinally! I just wanted to say that most everyone who is harassing you with their stake in the form of downvote trolling -or- those who are leaving malicious comments to rub salt in the wound after the fact are the ass cancer of HIVE. They will be the cause of its inevitable death, and you called it. You are right to leave, and sometimes the best way to win is not to play the game at all.

I've tried to shed light on this problem by contacting movers and shakers on the platform, but as it turns out—the douchelord who is trolling you with his massive stake is also supporting six of the top twenty witnesses and fourteen other influential people with his witness vote. So basically, nothing new will happen until HIVE dies of the malignancy that Bernie and his ilk are. And everyone who didn't push for change, they deserve to be bitter bag holders in the end. If might makes right so that a centralized stake power can keep picking people off one at a time for no solid reasoning, then fuck it. Allow it to fail in the marketplace of ideas.

I'm going to join you in a quasi boycott. In the coming week, I will power down most of my stake and leave just a bare minimum to function here and there as I see fit. Then at the next pump, if evolution hasn't happened, I'll dump these shit coins to the market and look for greener pastures. I know a losing horse when I see it, and this one in its current form is a moldy lemon. Not even fit for making lemonade with!

Only two things can fix HIVE's problems.

(1.) We need to implement the ability to soft-moderate (or hide) comments on blogs at the individual level. It should not be an action anchored to stake weight.

(2.) We need a trending flags section.

The latter is so that people can monitor and heal wrongly censored posts, or target abusive flaggers with like medicine. If possible, these things should be done at the chain level to encourage mass adoption on the various UIs. The truth of the matter is, if we are unwilling to shape the product to fit the market, we cannot balk at a lack of active users. Good on you for voting with your feet, it's something I should have done long ago.
@nathanpieters(63)· 2233d
Most of us gather a few friends and hit them back if we don’t have enough stake to stalemate them ourselves but ok. Lol. Bye
@stellabelle(76)· 2234d
Look at how hate has divided our Hive community. This is not right, and everyone knows it deep down.
@joeyarnoldvn(68)· 2234d
I have a footer that I sneak into the center of my posts as a way to hide it while not really hiding it. I would still copy and paste posts to Hive. I post to over ten different websites, the more the better. You don't have to put money into Hive or spend too much time on Hive if you don't want. It's good to have backups of your content on as many different places as possible. So, you could at least post your best stuff to Hive and all over the Internet, just one second per year. You don't have to totally leave forever. But you could limit how much time you spend on Hive.
@moeknows(67)· 2235d

The outpour of hate and harassment I received across platforms for suggesting that behavior of stakeholders is a barrier to adoption is incredible.

I saw mostly positive response to your posts. You are saying it is a barrier and a problem, but you seem to refuse to acknowledge the solutions that are already in place. Ultimately, what you wanted seems to be propaganda. You wanted somebody to join your crusade, but instead they gave you an answer. It's sad that you are leaving as this platform could really expand your user base. Most of us didn't know who you were.
@aagabriel(68)· 2235d
https://www.pscp.tv/CryptoFinally/1yNGaBMnnNDJj
@ange.nkuru(66)· 2235d
I find it amusing how after being called all those names being told to leave social media would be where you would draw the line. 🤣

P.s: It must really take a lot of love and dedication for a platform to have not upvoted(liked) a single thing in the 2 years you been on it. Really giving autovoters a run a for their money there.
@jaraumoses(69)· 2235d
I knew because you cannot play that victim card here on Hive!! https://hive.blog/hive-174578/@jaraumoses/you-don-t-play-the-adoption-victim-card-on-hive-while-being-downvoted-my-thoughts-on-cryptofinally-vs-xxxxx-drama
@randr10(64)· 2235d
^^^This is why there needs to be a dispute resolution function on Hive.

To anyone who's listening, if you think it's a good idea to drive people like her off the platform, you're wrong. It doesn't matter what you think of her content. Maybe she is an idiot. Maybe she doesn't know the first thing about crypto. I don't know. I haven't read or watched many of her posts. The problem with running her out on a rail though is that it's pretty obvious that a lot of people like something about her. If not, where did the upvotes come from? You think the people who voted don't matter? Because it seems like that's what you think. You think they're going to stick around? I don't think they will. The downvotes (flags) were originally supposed to be only for people who did something obviously wrong and broke a clear community rule, like posting plagiarized content as their own or harassing other users, not "I don't like this so I'm going to take my ball and I'm going home."

Upvotes and engagement on social media are an extension of the human limbic system, not our higher cognitive functions. I don't care if she sits there grunting like an ape and drooling on the camera, if there are people who like that kind of shit and it brings them here to grow the platform, bring it on. Social media is about creating a place for people to get together and form communities. Sometimes those communities are built on things we disagree with. Sometimes it's vapid horseshit slung by shallow idiots (I'm not saying that it is BTW, again, IDK). There's nothing wrong with that as long as they aren't harming others. I don't know what your goal was here, but it sure as shit isn't going to help bring in new users. What the fuck.
@ericwilson(69)· 2235d
I was on your side until this post.

Despite all it's flaws, you profited from being here, and that's something no one can take from you.

I have more respect from people that stick around and tough it out. Downvotes are nothing, you still profited despite them (even more so, looks like in addition to the additional conent and support this created for you as well). You would have received more support moving forward. Instead you rage quit.

I removed my upvotes for you over this last week and downvoted the post closest to payout. You see, with my stake, I can choose not to support (even downvote), people that don't have the best interest in the blockchain (or my perception of what that is based on my stake) in mind.

Um. Bye?
@bil.prag(76)· 2235d

disgusting videos made on Threespeak insinuating you pay me for sex

you could mention that everybody downvoted that video and reputation of that account is on -1. (even people that downvoted and were on the other side of discussion with you downvoted that). that would be fair.
@bil.prag(76)· 2236d
you said it is not about rewards, you wanted a solution. A lot of people tried to present you with few, you ignored it. One of the biggest developers wrote few "essays" of how it works and what could you do. and only thing you got from it is "Blocktrades even suggested I leave social media as a whole." and even that you misquoted (misunderstood).

I am not sure what you expected (i asked, you ignored it). Did you expected witnesses taking bernies stake? Censoring him on a blockchain level? The solution is here, you can mute him, you can make your community and not show his comments. Anything else is not possible. Because if it was, well some day it would happen to you. All big accounts could vote your posts, but you would still leave because that would not block his comments and it is not about rewards.

I really want to know what you thought could be a solution to this situation? I know i will not get any answer from you, and that is ok, it is your choice.

Best of luck, and don't get canceled.
@blocktrades(80)· 2236d

Blocktrades even suggested I leave social media as a whole

To save time for anyone who wants to know exactly what I actually said, here's the relevant portion of the thread: https://hive.blog/hive/@blocktrades/qda6xb

If you don't have the time to read it, here are some of the highlights: I gave her advice on how to mute her troller, something she totally ignored. In case that wasn't enough of a solution for her, @stellabelle and I both explained show she could use her own community to control the message on her own posts, which she ignored.

I explained that this is a decentralized platform and its main goal is to avoid centralized censorship, and that goal is more important than just growth at any cost. Again, not something she seemed to want to discuss.

My overall take on the conversation is that she didn't want to talk about the platform, she wanted to talk about how she was being personally attacked here. Which is really baffling to me, because it's almost impossible not to talk to many semi-anonymous people on the internet and not get attacked at some point.
@tsnaks(68)· 2236d
I am not really familiar with the situation, but are you leaving hive because someone is downvoting your ?

Does that mean you will be leaving twitter aswell if you get a couple of hate comments there ?

I think you just wanted to leave hive and needed an excuse for it.
@hiveqa(59)· 2236d
Sorry to hear it but I have to find this all very annoying you are claiming you understand how our community works. Very audacious of you to make that claim. You clearly have no idea how the Hive community works let alone the technology of how it works and how it's designed for such events.

Bernie has been around here for 4 years! Do you honestly think you were going to "win"? Bernie has been through many hardcore battles here on this chain good or bad that is just the way it is. Anyone who knows the community knows this. You clearly aren't connected to the community.

I saw the whole thing take place from the start. You were told your posts footers were spammy. You were told to engage more with the actual community with comments, not on your crypto show. You got mad because of this and didn't understand why whales didn't come to your defense once someone told you no more reward for you?

You could be right. Adoption could be stunted ( it won't ) by one whale but nobody will care or even know of Bernie when there are 1,0000 whales. So who cares? You didn't follow anyone's advice after-the-fact. You aren't going to be part of the most powerful social media ( and many other things shortly ) blockchain in the world. You really aren't going to be able to make in-roads in the crypto world as a "crypto influencer". You kept digging yourself a hole as I'm pretty sure some people had sympathy at first like myself but soon realized this was a case of being butthurt.
@nyltak(8)· 2236d
This platform reminds me of the gaming community, where you have the elitist 'Gamers' thinking that if you don't play their way, then you shouldn't play at all. The pvp'rs who think talking shit about the other player is just the way the game is played. They don't care if that other player is new to the game, they will berate them none the less. and ruin the experience. There is clearly that mentality in this community. I don't think the fork from Steem solved your problem. This medium will not work if it allows those who are already established to tear down people as they walk thru the door. New people will realize, like I did weeks ago, I have no reason to be here. There are places where I can go to learn new and fascinating things about cryptocurrency, and to comment on what I have seen, without the "Good ole boys" atmosphere. I have just been waiting for my tokens to power down, so I can trade them for Cardano.

@cryptofinally is respected in the large community overall, Hive/Steem are working towards proving they do not deserve the benefit of the doubt. and just as Justin Sun worked so hard to convince everyone that he is a scammer and opportunist, Hive too will convince even the most open-minded contributors that they made a mistake supporting it.
@jhodson(48)· 2236d
Wow, well this is sad. I can't say that I blame you for saying goodbye. We all have to take care of ourselves in the best way possible. I'm sorry you were attacked on this platform. It seems there is no easy way through this barrier. Yet, we must forge ahead anyway. Much love. See you on other platforms ❤️
@marki99(62)· 2236d
Sad it turned out this way.
@joshman(74)· 2236d
I hope you enjoyed your visit to a permission-less network. I'm sorry the non-existent authorities could not save you as they could have on traditional social media. It's just not for you. It's not for everyone. There's no protective bubble.
@kiwibloke(65)· 2236d
Good for you @cryptofinally, you do you, don't be forced to do what these people want you to do.

Listen to this appropriate song on Youtube! `https://youtu.be/YR5ApYxkU-U' kind of sums up what HIVE has turned into.
@lordbutterfly(80)· 2236d
Id only appreciate, for the sake of those that understood your side of it, that you dont go bad mouthing HIVE on twitter.😇 Most people here are good people.

GL
@enjar(79)· 2236d
Not sorry your attempt at cancel culture did not work here. Funny how you are for it when it’s in your favor, but, throw a tantrum when it’s not.

Seems like you just “shill” coins you know nothing about, hardly use, and demand to be given the red carpet treatment for having a couple of followers on other platforms.

You are so fake you told a bunch of people you would support and follow them when you first got here when the community came out and engaged with you on Twitter. Looks like you could not even be bothered to do that let alone vote another person, witness, or give a real dam other than the $ on a post.

You can go be as self-important on Instagram all you want unless they ban you again lol. It’s certainly not decentralized land over there but how you like it what you want when someone disagrees with you and says a bad word.
@inertia(75)· 2236d
@fbslo(72)· 2236d
1. Get downvoted and "harassed"
2. Start crying about trolls
3. Get offered many solutions
4. Ignore all the solutions
5. Leaves
Bye

Edit: 1. should be "makes almost $2k"
@acidyo(84)· 2236d

it is not the sole job of the people enduring the harassment to come up with solutions.

Yet you tried, and when you were given existing solutions you ignored them or didn't accept them but continued your rants.

The outpour of hate and harassment I received across platforms for suggesting that behavior of stakeholders is a barrier to adoption is incredible.

Unfortunately I put a lot of time to follow this bullshit yet I failed to see much hate except from a couple accounts. I see this kind of hate on twitter constantly and in your comment section there which is a complete shitfest, so if you expected just roses and rainbows on a decentralized platform, especially after how you yourself behaved, you're delusional.

I am very sad to see how this has turned out.

I agree, I thought you'd know better.
@gtg(76)· 2236d

I have done my best to express how much I care about Hive, that I am a vocal advocate for your platform

Bye Hive

Hello. I guess I haven't seen you before. Why "Bye" then? That doesn't make sense. It's a decentralized platform so in part it is exactly what you want it to be. Focus on what you like, if you can fix what you don't like, ignore everything else.
@sgt-dan(66)· 2236d
Goodbye Karen. Best of luck. Remember, No matter where you go? There you are.
@mayerr-hive(25)· 2236d
Unchain the Caterpillar: A Plea to the nerdy boomers

anonymity is like crack to the weak and insecure it allows you to be anything you want it gives control to the controlled

the hate in your heart builds from the popular girls in high school who didn't pay you the time of day then it was the success of everyone around you while you remain stagnant a meaningless life

but then you found a place where people like you could connect! mad at the world power in numbers detached from reality because in reality...you are nothing

Hive is a caterpillar The people running it are so detached from society that they have no clue how to make it a butterfly cause you like your caterpillar you like that it's yours it feels safe you're on top for the only time in your life and it feels good

so keep being grown ass men hiding behind your screen talking shit to cute girls

mainstream adoption here we come :)

Nobody’s thinkin' about you plus your beef ain't legit so please stay off the T-I-P of my dick!

Cryptofinally will be just fine She doesn't need you weirdos
@hiro-hive(75)· 2236d
The best solution is not to leave because of trolls. I want to suggest to make your own community and mute people there. No one can see his comments if you will do this inside your community. I will be joining your community if you will make one
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Good for you @cryptofinally, you do you, don't be forced to do what these people want you to do.

Listen to this appropriate song on Youtube! `https://youtu.be/YR5ApYxkU-U' kind of sums up what HIVE has turned into.

Unchain the Caterpillar: A Plea to the nerdy boomers

Support the HiveBuzz project. Vote for our proposal!

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