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Is it morally correct to be using BeeMe.icu?

I'm really torn on this one. All evidence shows that this is theft since steemworld was not really open source and their code has taken against @steemchiller own will. (That's what I understand from all of this at least).

I was really a steemworld addict and I barely can keep myself away from Beeme but it feels wrong to be using a "stolen website." I believe it is too easy to justify this theft by saying:

Anyways @steemchiller could just have moved with us or some other excuse for us to steal from him. I think overall it puts Hive in a bad spotlight and it would be great to see us rejecting this temptation.

For me, I will do my best not to give in for this temptation and instead wait for an alternative that is actually not stolen property OR it is confirmed beeme is in fact, legit. I think it is easy to justify theft and it is something I would like to take a distance from.

Would love to hear all of you others opinion on this one. The opinions seem to be all over the place.

ps. I really love this new "Askhive community". Such a cool idea for better engagement!

Comments · 9

@lemony-cricket(63)· 2315d
There is no moral imperative to use or not to use BeeMe. Use it if you want, don't use it if you don't want to, but intellectual property is a dead imaginary construct. It is completely irrelevant in a decentralised context. If somehow @steemchiller were able to successfully serve a takedown request to the hosting provider, someone else would host a new version almost immediately.

@steemchiller once had my deepest respect. I voted all of his support posts when he started making them and used to beg him to open-source his tools and receive rewards through Utopian.io when it was still alive, or at least run for witness. I was always frustrated that instead of doing that, he would keep complaining about how bad his life was financially. Now I don't want anyone to struggle in silence, but it's very frustrating to watch that happen to someone while they completely ignore your various suggestions to better their situation.

All that was just frustration, but then watching his decline into Justin shill status has just been terrible. I had hope for him briefly when he published a post which was critical of Steemit Inc's decision to soft-fork and freeze accounts. Unfortunately I cannot link you to that post, because it was censored by Steemit Inc on their API servers (which only they still run) and is no longer accessable through any frontend.

They censored him, and I thought he'd get really pissed then and maybe realise he should come over to Hive! But no, what he did erased every ounce of respect I ever had for him, or ever might have again.

He put his fucking tail between his legs, kowtowed to Justin, and ran for fucking witness. So fuck it.

Use BeeMe.
@codingdefined(76)· 2318d
As a developer myself, I would say its morally incorrect to use it. But if the code was available earlier then, you can use it and improve yourself like how you need it.
@phortun(79)· 2318d
It´s not "morally correct" in my book but my crave for all those stats & numbers is stronger than the morality in this case... I am sorry. Btw still cannot believe that SteemChiller decided to stay "over there" :( Such a smart and dedicated dude...
@pixelfan(74)· 2318d
To be honest, this is an older version that was a free download for everybody to use... If steemchiller gave it for free then, why not use it.
@steemitri(65)· 2318d
I'm agree with you. I was following the whole conversation, especially in the german community... @steemchiller is from Germany ;-)

It's a copy/paste, changing colors and name.

I would not put my keys there.
@bobskibob(61)· 2318d
how can it be stolen if it's not open source?
@sheikh27(65)· 2318d
But we want the same platform here, nevertheless it win!
@skapaneas(71)· 2318d
You got me on the Fuck that guy part.

I know you didn't say it but let me add my 2 cents here.
@cwow2(73)· 2318d
Steemworld was really useful and stolen or not. I will use Beeme. Unless steemchiller files something against it as theft :)