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The Odyssey - Well, that was unnecessary.

While Christopher Nolan's "The Odyssey" has been the subject of much heated debate (or perhaps because of that debate), I thought I'd give it a shot and form my own opinion on it. I knew towards which I leaned. How could you not when yet another Westerner allows Western culture and mythos to be trampled and disregarded for no good reason. Still, I wanted to be fair.

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And in all fairness, Nolan's questionable casting choices do little to hinder the movie. Nor do they add to it in any meaningful way, though. Nothing seems to. Indeed, this much-talked-about film is, at best, unremarkable. Ordinary. Meh. Just to be clear, the film itself is not bad. In fact, it was way better than I expected, and at times, I did sympathize with some of the characters. I did like Tom Holland as Telemachus, for instance. But overall, if someone else had played any of the characters, I don't think it would've made much difference. At no point did I think "oh boy, I'm glad X was cast in that role!". They were fine. Just not something to write home about.

Which, ironically, I'm doing here in a way. But then again, it is the Internet, and we all feel compelled to have an opinion and make our voice heard, huh.

Which I guess is an even more interesting part of it - how the Internet turned an entirely average movie into a big, hot issue that everybody's talking about. I get (obviously) the critique on the right.

No, Nolan had no good reason to go DEI and not cast an accurate-looking cast all-around. The fact that he put a couple of Black, Asian and Hispanic dudes into the mix added nothing to the story. What it does risk doing, however, is diminishing this beautiful culture that we (broadly the Western World) have built upon. You would not see a couple of white dudes hanging out in a movie about African deities and myth. That would be appropriation. The fact that we so lightly allow our own precious history and culture to be appropriated has already bit us in the ass.

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But then, Nolan doesn't seem to count the gods much either way. Even Athena is nothing more than a PTSD vision for poor old Odysseus. Athena. Who fucking guides the dude back to Ithaca.

There is an interesting bit, though, that I understand and appreciate from a storytelling perspective. Throughout the film, the graceless suitors of Penelope keep invoking "Zeus's Law" (treat others as you would be treated, basically), only for Odysseus to have a breakdown at the end, decrying his own transgression of that Law via the Trojan Horse.

Now, that's actually a good point in a way, isn't it? We have come a sad, far way from the time when you could rely on the basic human goodness and common decency of your neighbor. How much a stupid B movie has managed to divide and enrage the Internet (and pit us one against the other) is a perfect example of that. In the film, Odysseus mourns the death of civilization. And indeed, it certainly often seems we are letting ours die.

On the other hand, I don't know how I feel about the message that war is despicable and we should now scorn our once heroes and legends. When I was a kid, Odysseus was a cunning, admirable hero. Are we going to throw these into the mud, too?

It is despcable. And very slowly we (the West) are inching our way to a new point. we are evolving. but we haven't evolved yet. And I think we're in a very dire and dangerous position right now. We keep having this impression of ourselves as nuanced and evolved, moved beyond the horrors of war and dog eats dog. I get it. Especially as an artist, but also as a human, I lack the stomach for such things and suffer for injustice bitterly.

At the same time, maybe it's not in our best interest as a culture (while we are still a culture) to throw down our "weapons", be they only mental. The heroes we revere, the stories we tell, these are important, valuable weapons. It's a signal of great hubris, convincing ourselves we are evolved past war-like mentalities. Because for one, we're not. The world changes, but not as fast as we would like to think, and us with it. And secondly, we are not surrounded by people who are past war-like mentalities. So, much like the Christian monks the Vikings once slaughtered, we may live by higher moral principles, though we may nevertheless die by the sword.

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All in all, it's not a bad movie. Long. Some decent CGI, especially the monsters. Probably the best part, if you ask me. Definitely doesn't hold a candle to its spiritual predecessor, "Troy". Then again, few things will probably impact me (or our culture) as much as Brad Pitt's naked, athletic glory.

I just wish, for all the fuss and all the stubborn casting, he would've made a better movie. would give a whole lot less of a fuck if it was a mindblowing movie. It definitely feels like Nolan's past his artistic prime. There's no daring, no creative cheekiness in either plotting or casting. And unfortunately, the film(goers) suffers for it.

Should you see it? I don't know. If you really want to. Personally, I'd wait for it to come out on streaming. Watch Inception. Interstellar. The Dark Knight. Memento. Plenty of actually good movies to fill your days with, you know.

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Comments · 7

  • I've been distancing myself more and more from Hollywood and the mainstream in general because I get tired of walking away feeling as if I wasted minutes/hours I'll never get back. Once you see the kind of social conditioning that's going on (and probably has for our entire lifetime) it's impossible to unsee it. I really couldn't care less if an actor's race doesn't match the original character they're playing but my main issue would be surrounding the question of why? If it's because the producer/director thinks the particular actor is the person best suited for the role then that's all good but if it's anything else then it just isn't genuine.

  • @riverflows(82)· 30d

    The casting debate is an interesting one. It drives Jamie wild but I can let it go. Who is to say that trade didn't bring Asians and other cultures to Greek shores? And certainly, it'd be historically plausable - it wasn't an isolated white-euro world then but part of a network connecting continents through migration, trade and war, so I'd definitely shrug and let it go after the initital jarring. I also think back then race was looked at a lot differently to now. It's interesting to see how our reactions to race in the film probably are part of this current cultures way of seeing.

    However it's probably more about how casting should serve the story, not become the story - we wouldn't debate over it if it was that great, because you'd forget the casting immediately. Jamie, for example, cannot watch anything with Matt Smith in it because he just, for some reason, can't stand him! I'm not that much of a Matt Damon fan, so this film isn't that high on my watch list. Still, I'd be a bit annoyed with Helen as black as she was always described as fair - so yeah, a bit of faitfulness to the original text is a bit better than this obvious and quite banal switcheroo. I mean, why?? - just as I'd think why Anne Hathaway and Matt Damon.

    But ultimately, I can't help thinking that it's probably not even about the casting choices but the cultural moment we're living in now, right? First of all there was no diversity in film, now there's too much - like we do need to throw a black female James Bond possiblity in the mix, for goodness sake? We can certainly examine why we care about these details so much - it makes for good conversation and critique.

    I can definitely side with those who see Odyssey as myth not a reconstruction of history - it's been translated, adapted and reshaped for thousands of years - as @steevc says "Odysseus was not yellow in The Simpsons" - every adaptation reflects the era behind it. In twenty years, I wonder if the casting will be different and what it will say about us then.

    I'll choose not to watch it I reckon. It just doesn't interest me. I don't want my view of the Odyssey tarnished by Nolan, tyvm.

  • @bozz(83)· 30d

    I've heard mixed reviews on the movie as well. I likely won't spend the money to go see it. I just don't get into movies like I used to. I've been finding myself reading more than watching lately.

  • @steevc(80)· 30d

    I thought the colour-blind casting was irrelevant to the quality of the movie. The acting was more important and I thought that was mostly very good. It is after all a myth and the story went through generations before being written down. The story-tellers would insert their own biases and Nolan has his too. He has tried to make a movie for our times and I think he succeeded. He certainly missed out a lot of sex and violence from what I've heard, but I've not read the Odyssey in any form so far. I did thoroughly enjoy the movie anyway.

    I have also seen Oh Brother, Where Art Thou that is also based on the same myth. I've seen a version on The Simpsons too. Was Odysseus really yellow?

    A movie is a piece of art and opinions will vary. This one got more publicity due to a certain person going on endlessly about the casting. He claims he can create a 'historically accurate' movie with AI. Maybe that can give us Helen's birth from an egg after her mother was raped by Zeus disguised as a swan.

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  • @shanibeer(74)· 30d

    Obama is a real person whose racial identity is known and tied to history, Odysseus is part of an oral tradition that changed many times before it got to be written down (here's a really interesting review of the various English translations from the Greek). Nolan has taken a universal story - Hero sets out on a quest, faces challenges, has a helper, is changed in some way, returns home - and used it to explore things that interest him: loneliness, what happens to morality when civilisation breaks down. Blind-casting is a bit of a red herring given it's a story, but anyway, the ancient Mediterranean was a melting pot of diversity and inter-relationships.

  • @hareem321(52)· 30d

    Great deep dive! You raised some really interesting points about how classical mythos and cultural themes were handled here. Thanks for sharing your fair and honest perspective! 🎬👍