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  @rynow(73)· 2343d

  Hi @kopasi

  I see my name is on the list of people voting for 2 x sockpuppets or gave a proxy to somebody who voted for them. According to me I did not give any proxies. I know I voted for goodguy24 by mistake and changed immediately when I was made aware. I also changed all my witness votes to the top real steem witnesses as soon as the trouble started in order to help get them to the top. I also started powering down immediately.

  You should also note that I am one of the older steemians, since August 2016, who never once used bidbots, and build up a reputation of 71 through just posting, and not paying for any votes!! You will note that I had one of the longest running series on steemit, with over 1000 Daily Scripture posts, and a total of 1886 posts. I also have 34 625 comments and 50 982 replies. I gave 184 886 vote and received 147 468 votes, thus you can see I did bring my side, through the years and should not be punished, like this.

  Please let me know of the details why I am on the list!!

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  @valued-customer(75)· 2349d

  You call Hive centralized, yet fail to mention what is happening on Steem now that Sun Yuchen has centralized governance in his person: massive censorship, $300+ downvotes, and zero ability of the community to influence governance.

  When you voted for his socks for witness, that's what you voted for. That's what you got. Hive was a rejection of that governance, and since you voted to centralize governance on Steem, Hive didn't offer you free tokens to use on Hive to use to try to centralize governance here.

  I don't think that's an unreasonable position for Hive to take. Why does Hive owe anyone tokens? What did you do to earn Hive tokens? I didn't earn my Hive tokens - except as those that airdropped them to me reckoned I had.

  I posted on Steem my recommendation to you to pick a side and stop trying to extort the community, warning that would do you harm. I didn't even recommend you pick the side of those now on Hive. I just recommended you pick a side.

  Here you are now, having failed to take my recommendation. I hate to say I told you so, but I sure as hell told you so, and you chose to try to play both sides against the middle, pissing everyone off, and gaining no allies by extorting them. Today you have no tokens airdropped from the Hive community you tried to extort and who left you to your Steem, now controlled by Sun Yuchen. How grateful is Sun Yuchen? Is he now ending downvotes? No?

  I'm not surprised, and I don't think you are either. Your protestations are disingenuous today because you were absolutely aware that you were extorting the Steem community and Sun Yuchen by voting for both sides of the hostile takeover attempt, and now you reap the fruits you have sown. Don't complain if your blackmail victims aren't giving you free stuff now. It's really like begging, and when you have a mechanism in the HPS system to make a case for a free airdrop, begging does not inspire expectation of responsible and productive contributions from you. It's like holding up a sign that says 'wil work for food' but when someone offers you a meal for some work you turn it down.

  We're here because we want to be here, and if you want to run a witness, earn tokens, buy tokens, submit HPS proposal for free airdrop tokens, you're free to do that. So am I. That's not centralization.

  That's freedom.

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  @informationwar(65)· 2349d

  I thought about this for a while and there's no way around the fact that this list must be addressed. Sooner rather than later..... Apologies it took so long to notice, it has been a very hectic few days and week.

  

  ^ who owns these accounts @sirvotesalot @ngc @z8teyb289qav9z @innerhive that were flooding comment sections from around 5 hours to 0 hours ETA for the HIVE snapshot of the STEEM blockchain to be taken?

  Upvoted by @aagabriel for having similarities to the #informationwar tag, posts like this anyone can add the tag #informationwar so we can more easily find and upvote them! (by @aagabriel)

  

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  @dailyke20(73)· 2351d

  what can I say? I didn't even know what I've supported because I voted @justyy as my proxy.

  来自于 [WhereIn Android] (http://www.wherein.io)

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  @woolgom(63)· 2351d

  하이브가 도대체 뭔지...?;;;;;;;

  Posted using Partiko iOS

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  @alexs1320(72)· 2351d

  Yet another proof that we are dealing with ideologically possessed communists who don't believe in private property rights.

  What a lovely message for all the investors and users.

  If you don't like our commy utopia, we will excommunicate you.

  This is their vision of decentralization :D

  LOL

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  @chekohler(76)· 2351d

  Why do you care if HIVE isn't going to give you any free tokens? You still have your steem, let people do what they want with their stake

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  @ammonite(73)· 2351d

  I'll just leave this here for no reason.

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  @rafalski(66)· 2351d

  Make your own fork and exclude anyone you want.

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  @revisesociology(82)· 2351d

  I see your mate's on the list, I guess he'll be moaning about that.

  Sad not to see crystalieu or however you spell it there.

  I was also wondering whether blockbrothers might be on there, they did kind of say they were happy to consider working with Sun.

  Work, why would you want to do a thing like that!?

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  @roelandp(78)· 2351d

  개천에서 용 난다

  Dear Kopasi and all @proxy.token voters. You have a compelling point, yet "Ethnic Cleansing" is a very loaded, insinuating reasoning, which is obviously not the reason for this ruleset about the airdrop: Consensus in the Hive group decided the specific rulesets for this INITIAL airdrop. You can find the rules for the ruleset in the code of 23.0 which you are already stating in this article.

  등잔 밑이 어둡다

  Please notice the words: INITIAL.

  I want to emphasize that the Hive chain is a new beginning, with 50+ developers working on the chain and its direct projects. So, exciting times ahead!

  While I understand it is painful to see @proxy.token proxy voters with more than 1K SP being excluded from the INITIAL airdrop, I want to let you know that the case for "forgiveness" is very much alive. We all make mistakes.

  HOWEVER, the funds for those not included on the Hive Airdrop have simple been moved to the DAO HIVE FUND and will NOT be burned or in any other way used for the foreseeable future.

  "Hive Chain"에 대한 "Airdrop"-펀드가 여러분을 기다리고 있습니다:

  The Airdrop Funds for the Hive Chain are waiting for you:

  You are very welcome to start a Proposal on behalf of the Proxy.Token voters to unlock those funds.

  Please understand that consensus was reached on the specific rules for the "exclusion of initial airdrop"-list. Anyone can run any software.

  I very much encourage you once the fork is complete and stable, to look into a Voting Proposal and depending on how it looks I might very much be for a "forgiveness" vote, but it will depend on your proposal.

  If you don't like that, obviously everyone is very welcome to stay with the Steem chain or run their own software.

  • 고생 끝에 낙이 온다
  • 김치국부터 마시지 말라
  • 원숭이도 나무에서 떨어진다
  • 매도 먼저 맞는 게 낫다

  Looking forward to your proposal on behalf of proxy.token voters on the Hive chain!

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  @lukestokes(77)· 2351d

  How do you define "blockchain"? Is it just a centralized database controlled by one person or something more? How can you support someone who intends to run a blockchain like a centralized database? "Ethnic cleansing" is absolutely ridiculous. This isn't about race at all, it's about those who chose to attack Steem and made it clear by their actions they are not interested in what Hive represents (decentralization).

  That said, I didn't agree with the criteria used or the subjective method for how it was determined. I understand the perspective of those who came up with it, but I would have preferred to just exclude the Steemit ninja-mined stake just as v0.22.2 did. You can read my witness post here for more details. Those who were excluded can submit a proposal to get their Hive tokens, as far as I understand.

  Don't forget your steem is treated the same.

  Maybe something is lost in translation here, but what do you mean by this? Do you mean in the future Hive might restrict your tokens? I would not support that as long as I'm a witness. This initial launch of Hive is about separating out those who actively attacked Steem by centralizing it.

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  @banguri(71)· 2351d

  kr 을 의도적으로 배척하네요. 고민하지 않게 알아서 해 줘서 고맙네요.

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  @pfunk(73)· 2351d

  image.png

  (https://files.steempeak.com/file/steempeak/pfunk/SMujrs6u-image.png)

  LOL! Enjoy the centralized pump and dump network you voted for. Hive doesn't airdrop on the people who voted to attack it.

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  @gerber(64)· 2351d

  Accounts excluded who voted a minimum of two sockpuppets or proxied someone who voted a minimum of two and who didn't unvote before the hive announcement with more than 1k sp

  nothing about race here...

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  @agar(61)· 2352d

  한국 분들은 거의 스팀에 남겠네요...

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  @crypticat(74)· 2352d

  Ethnic Cleansing? That's a little harsh, maybe hostile to counterview is warranted.

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  @epitt925(69)· 2352d

  한국 유저들은 거의다 뺀다고 보면 되겠네요

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  @fur2002ks(73)· 2352d

  kr 많은 분들 제외군요!! 저도... 잘가라 하이브~

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  @hyokhyok(72)· 2352d

  저들에게 프록시토큰의 보팅은 유지되나요?

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