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SPS Governance Proposal: Brawl - Count all frays equally with examples about effects (tier 1-4)

Official Splinterlands - DAO-Proposal: Brawl - Count all frays equally

Problem:

Now a guild can just leave a fray empty and the result against all other guilds in this fray will be 0:0, it even happens in the past that frays was only filled from one guild, so this guild could reach only 0 points in this fray.

Improvement Solution:

All frays count for every guild, so if a guild let a fray empty this counts as 3 points for all guilds who filled this fray. A 0:0 would be only in affect anymore when two guilds doesn't fill the same fray (so it is logical that both cannot win any point).

PROs:

  • Guilds are encouraged to fill all Frays.
  • Each guild member can contribute something to the overall result.
  • With more fights per Brawl, it's more exciting to participate
  • The pot for every brawl will increase as more player will counts (every player who win or draw at least one battle count, so for example a player who defend an empty fray doesn't count)

CONTRAs:

  • Guilds with few members cannot fill all Frays

Further information

As shown in this screenshot, even a level 1 guild already has 15 member positions, so 15 members can join a guild:

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On the other hand, a level 1 (and also level 2) arena only offers 13 Frays, so that with a full level 1 guild, 2 members cannot take part in the brawl:

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It cannot happen that a guild has a lower membership limit than the Frays that have to be filled in a Brawl, since the arena can never have a higher level than the Guild Hall.

Here is an actual example for each Tier except the highest Tier (1-4 from 5): Crowns payout with current and proposed systems. This is without a top 3 bonus, which is going to go away since that proposal passed.

Tier 4:

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If you take a look at this table than the change doesn't help the two top-guilds they get even less crownes. The highest positive impact receive "Bitcoin & Brews" at place 7 as they filled all frays, so especially guilds who fill all frays but placed only in the second half ot the brawl can benefit from this suggested change.

Tier 3:

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Here it is similiar the top-3-guilds earn less crownes and the Guild " For Sale Top Guild" benefit most as they filled 17 from 18 frays.

Tier 2:

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As in the example from Tier 3 and 4 the first guild get less rewards and the only guild in this brawl who filled all frays benefit the most from the suggested change.

Tier 1:

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In this example the guild at place 1 as a slighty better reward but as they are one of only 2 guilds who filled all frays this is natural, but look to the impact for the guild at place 7, they can even double their rewards and earn now the sam amount of crownes like the second.

The examples and tables are from @kalkulus - Thank you very much for your impact.

In summary the result of this suggested change is that guilds who fill all frays will earn more rewards and this should encourage all guilds to fill all frays and avoid situation where player cannot take part in a brawl cause they have no opponent.

Comments · 8

  • @michaeljnz(25)· 919d

    This will probably spell the end for my guild, we barely fill 7 brawls on a good day. I wondered why we didn't get guaranteed last every brawl, I'm guessing we will now.

  • @elistios10(36)· 922d

    or how to try and patch a brawl system that require to be redone from scratch and that make it impossible for a small guild to fill all of their frays that now will on top of that get penalized for it.

    Instead of paying for a DAO council master, we should use that money to help splinterland team to hire new crew so that they can finally do their own work themself as right now all the DAO is doing is patching what the splinterland team is unable to deliver in due time and it's getting problematic.

    I'm voting no simply because I'm tired of half ass band aid solutions and that we deserve serious change from the team themself, you know that stuff you voted for when Weird beard was still there and made us all fill a brawl survey of what we want our brawl to become but that got shoved away because of mismanagement...

  • @bigdizzle91(66)· 925d

    who the fuck wrote this...

  • @n20(35)· 925d

    This proposal is an encouragement for players to enter a fray that they are not suited in order to fill the spot. The calculations provided are meaningless because it is not taking into consideration the effect of filling spots with weak players. The stronger guilds will benefit more by scoring many more points than they already do. The struggling weaker guilds will be the losers. Should this proposal pass the impact would be to lower the quality of brawl battles and for what purpose? - I don't see the merit of this proposal.

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  • @davemccoy(67)· 928d

    I'll vote for it. Simple and makes sense.

  • @warshire(51)· 928d

    How about a rework on the brawl types so that the guilds CAN fill them? The alpha/beta/GF brawls kill the chances for an average guild to participate. Voting for a change to anything is pointless until those are reworked.

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