#steemworld

My accounts are on the Hive blacklist

Will there be a SteemWorld on Hive?

I'm on your beloved witnesses blacklist, guys. Do I need to say more?

Why are you blacklisted?

Maybe because I took part in de-escalating the situation and therefore voted for both sides (4 of Justin's witnesses). Freezing accounts in a "decentralized" blockchain is the dumbest thing I have ever seen. They are responsible for what is happening now and they obviously cannot handle the truth.

There is a reason why Steem, despite the clearly superior technology, was not in the top lists by market cap. It's not just a random occurrence. It looks like they don't want to lose control and by keeping the community small it is much easier to accomplish that.

"Divide and conquer the world" is their mission. Many who are taking part are not even aware of this fact. I have seen enough.

I love Steem and will continue to work on SteemWorld. Putting a developer like me on a blacklist shows that they won't give people a chance who share different opinions. The existing dictatorship in the core has now become clearly visible to the world.

As they lost control over Steem, they needed to start an own blockchain. Many worker bees blindly followed and continued to work for the same old self-chosen kings as before. Bring us only the honey we love or die.

I stay true to myself and will do my best to bring Steem to where it belongs. It's time.

Much love,

Comments · 66

@udabeu(72)· 1745d
Ups , hi . #Me still thinks #It schould go on posting on all three #CHAINZ interakting on all three. And I think #STEEMEANS mising theese things develloping connecting #HIVE outward into the Krypto is not right. And could be solved by certain "links" of which the #ENGINES @steem-engine @hive-engine can play a mayor role .

Oh ja, hihi , die @steemworld , hihi , die fehlt einfach hier , auch auf dem #BLURT , #ISSO .
@logic(70)· 2313d
Hi, When will "transfer search" be activated in Hive World? Thanks
@olimiesma(51)· 2341d
They talk about freedom of expression, but in reality this is full-blown censorship. This is very Narcissistic
@forykw(71)· 2342d
Create another account and show them wrong.
@informationwar(65)· 2346d
re-"hived"
@informationwar(65)· 2346d
I thought about this for a while and there's no way around the fact that this list must be addressed. Sooner rather than later..... Apologies it took so long to notice, it has been a very hectic few days and week.

^ who owns these accounts @sirvotesalot @ngc @z8teyb289qav9z @innerhive that were flooding comment sections from around 5 hours to 0 hours ETA for the HIVE snapshot of the STEEM blockchain to be taken?

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@ibt-survival(60)· 2346d

Congrats! on your upvotes from the IBT Community on Hive
@fenngen(72)· 2347d
I really hope this was just a mistake and it gets sorted out. You are a huge contribution to the blockchain and your work is highly appreciated, stay well.
@sharpshot(69)· 2347d
I can't get past how anyone could think voting for sock puppet witnesses was a good idea? Steem died for me the day Justin took over steemit. I wish the witnesses had just hard forked and not bothered with the temporary freeze of the steemit ninja mined funds but I fully understand why they did that. They wanted to work with Justin but that obviously wasn't going to happen. This is the way DPOS should work. If we are against what the witnesses do, we can vote them out. It might not be easy but it wasn't easy blocking Justin and that was achieved, so anything is possible. The Steem blockchain is now Justin's toy, he can do what he wants with it. That's not what I would call decentralization.
@tzap90(56)· 2347d
This escalated quickly, I was chilling with my steem account, one week later I hear some rumors for a partnership with Tron and 2 weeks later we have a Fork. Is there any stat what percentage of the community already switched to Hive?
@kus-knee(74)· 2347d
Your site steemworld.org is my go to for all things Steem. It would be great to have you on Hive too!
@ssjsasha(74)· 2347d
crazy, I guess in hindsight should of taken off your votes
@massivevibration(56)· 2347d
This must be a huge mistake !!!
@pfunk(73)· 2347d

Maybe because I took part in de-escalating the situation and therefore voted for both sides (4 of Justin's witnesses).

No, you used your stake to prolong an attack on Steem which necessitated the creation of a fork that excluded the balances of the accounts that voted in support of the attack.

Your account is still there and usable. The balance that you irresponsibly used on Steem has been excluded from the fork's airdrop. Don't blame anyone but yourself.
@amico(67)· 2347d
This is a really bad HIVE start: I am very sad and disgusted!

@steemchiller and many other blacklisted users have all my support and understanding!
@edicted(83)· 2348d
You'll obviously get enough community support to overturn the airdrop. 0.22.2 was the only correct move. Had we not done it where would we be right now? This hostile takeover was the best thing this community has ever overcome.

Crypto is about consensus. We had consensus to freeze those accounts. You've known how consensus works on Steem for years. If you thought it was too centralized, why are you here?

We will also come to consensus to give you your airdrop back. Obviously... but now you're acting like someone who would just take that airdrop and dump it on the market... so what the fuck? Do you want to be a part of this community or don't you?
@mightypanda(64)· 2348d
I hope hive gets listed on a real exchange so i can dump all my tokens and get the hell out. Can't say no to free money. But any chain where biggest abusers are the leaders will meet the same fate as steem. Honestly I think at this point both steem and Hive are dead in water.
@stevescoins(70)· 2348d
It wasn't a "difference" of opinions,

It was supporting the centralization of Steemit under a man with a demonstrated history of blockchain dishonesty, possible ties to the CCP, and an attack on the Steemit witnesses.

I have used and supported your brilliant work with Steemworld, but if you can't see justin for the threat to the Old Steem That Was, then...[shrugs]
@thatsweeneyguy(65)· 2348d
I was not aware that there had been a blacklist created when forking the chain. So anyone who didn't fully support the new chain isn't allowed to join? I don't like the way that sounds at all...
@ewkaw(79)· 2348d
Would be a shame not to have you and Steemworld in Hive. You created the best and most user friendly explorer.
@blacklux(68)· 2348d
Being neutral is a crime in the blockchain it seems! I'm in that list too for being neutral. Both sides have valid points, both sides made mistakes, both sides are playing "who got bigger balls". If having a mind of my own, remaining neutral and not letting anyone use me as a pawn means I will be blacklisted and treated as a traitor by some people, so be it!
@pixelfan(74)· 2348d
Hi @steemchiller,

All emotions set apart, and I don't want to give any opinion, just want to say that a lot of average users like me (you know them, the silent majority) will really really really miss you and steemworld on hive. I always see discussions between extremes here... but not a lot from the average users who just enjoy posting on steemit/Hive/steempeak/... and others.

I can only hope you will reconsider and try hive too... I'm 100% sure that a lot of people will support you! I know I will personally do whatever I can to support you if you decide to join hive...and a lot of others will follow.

You made a wonderful piece of software that is used by many... many of wich don't even know or understand they will not have access to their favorite UI on hive...

So please, reconsider my friend!
@lukestokes(77)· 2348d
When I first saw the criteria for the list and the number of people on it, I tried to convince those involved to just stick with the Steemit ninja-mined stake only. Unfortunately, I was unsuccessful at convincing those doing the coding to change their minds.

I think Steemworld is a valuable tool for the community and it's unfortunate your account was included, but I at least appreciate the criteria was set and followed without any special favorites or exceptions. The funds are air dropped to the HIVE DAO as part of the code and my hope is the community of token holders who disagree with what was done will create proposals to airdrop back on to the accounts that deserve it.

Freezing accounts in a "decentralized" blockchain is the dumbest thing I have ever seen. They are responsible for what is happening now and they obviously cannot handle the truth.

I respect your opinion on this, though I disagree with it. For v0.22.2, I supported temporarily disabling voting and disabling power down until we could come to a resolution. Disabling liquid transfers was added later and Tim and I both disagreed. He disagreed strongly enough to run v0.22.3 which didn't freeze the liquid tokens (but did prevent voting, power down, I believe). He was voted out of consensus which does seem to indicate the token holders supported v0.22.2.

To me, what's dumber than a temporary freeze to avoid a stated threat is sybil attacking the chain so it's controlled by one person. That's not even a blockchain any more. I don't know why anyone who cares about blockchain technology would ever support that.
@tonytrillions(68)· 2348d
!giphy awesome

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@flemingfarm(81)· 2348d
I love Steemworld but I don't see how you can look at the results and not understand why it happened. It is written out and plain to see that by voting for the sock puppets it put you at odds with the vast majority of the users on Steem. It will be sad to see you go and for Steemworld to lose most of its traffic. I hope you can come to terms with your decisions and find a way to move forward.
@alexs1320(72)· 2348d
Enjoy the real Communism
@costanza(78)· 2348d
This blacklist literally killed all my excitement and hopes for Hive honestly.

How can you make a new chain claiming you finally want to be more decentralized while blacklisting individual accounts based on criteria that make no sense and include everyone that actively took a neutral stand. This will kill so much moral or social support the project had going for it right now and hold back future serious investors as it just makes hive look very shady.
@digitalgoldmine(31)· 2348d

"Divide and conquer the world" is their mission. Many who are taking part are not even aware of this fact. I have seen enough.

The pot calling the kettle black springs to mind. I totally agree that is HIVE's only mission and motivation. Nothing to do with the protection of the Blockchain.
@clixmoney(78)· 2348d
The thing I can't understand is why @binance-hot is not in the blacklist while they supported Justin even more than everyone else. I don't see the other exchange huobi there as well.
@eii(72)· 2348d
This is unfairly and stupid.

$trdo !BEER
@sheikh27(65)· 2348d
Very sad to know that you are blacklisted in hive, but true love & respect for you from whole steemians.

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@coffeea.token(58)· 2348d
Lucky you @steemchiller here is your COFFEEA, view all your tokens at steem-engine.com Vote for c0ff33a as Witness
@johndoer123(68)· 2348d
This will probably cause me to sell all my hive tokens. I don't need to be a part of Steem1.1. Seems like this new place will be the same as the old.... Follow the leader....or off with your head.

I guess it makes a lot of sense why they pickked the name hive....
@lordbutterfly(80)· 2348d
As a wise man once said:

"play stupid games, win stupid prizes."

... Or in this game win no prizes at all.

It's very unfortunate that you will be left out but you made your bed and now you have to lay in it.

I loved your service and would love for you to join us. There will be a dev fund and I'm sure you will be able to take advantage of it. I'm sure you will have community support like you had here.

People sometimes make stupid mistakes and have to deal with consequences unfortunately.
@flugschwein(62)· 2348d
While the Hive completely failed due to that list, I would argue that the Steem isn't any better seeing that company developing the blockchain is censoring certain posts because they don't agree with their opinions. To be honest they both degraded to bullshit in the last days.
@donekim(77)· 2348d
As already seen in SoftFork 22.2, the forkchain called HIVE is a very centralized chain with no respect for token holders.
@pundito(70)· 2348d
Hi @steemchiller, I'm pretty sure the decision to put you on the blacklist is discussible and thousands of users will support you.

If anybody deserves to be on #hive including the airdrop it is you.

Calm down, come over and let's discuss the situation. Nothing is written in stone. Corrections can be done.

Of course, I'm not the person who makes decisions but you have my 100% support to convince the decisionmakers.
@sanjeevm(78)· 2348d
I think, there is a process in which, you can raise concerns, and it should be sorted out. You must come to HIVE. And if you want to continue on steem, I think, its ok to be on both sides.
@grider123(69)· 2348d
I resteemed your post so others can see it. The whole thing with the blacklist is a bit sketchy IMHO. We could protect the chain by simply allowing only one 100% wittness vote per Steemian and if you vote multiple times the percentage gets divided between your votes. This should be enough to prevent a large stakeholder to overtake the chain...
@lifeaef(54)· 2348d
```
// Accounts excluded who voted a minimum of two sockpuppets or proxied someone who voted a minimum of two and who didn't unvote before the hive announcement with more than 1k sp
```
The Rules of the blacklist is too harsh, it's ridiculous. 1000SP before the announcement is $130. That's nothing. @blocktrades and whoever is behind the hardfork need to revise this ASAP

I think removing the ninja minded stake, is only the first step

Moving to the new Blockchain, we expect a safe place for free speech and free opinion. We can take sides, we can vote for whoever we want even for Justin Sun if he decides to onboard hive.

I expect Hive will be a completely better version of Steem not just a hardfork. We don't want Steem Blockchain code, we had millions of problems with it. We want the community, its values and its experiences; @steemchiller is part of that.

If Hive will be another centralised Blockchain under different names, I will be leaving it
@luegenbaron(65)· 2348d
Komm auf den Discord, oder dann auf Hive, sprich die Sache an und du bekommst sehr wahrscheinlich von der Community nen nachträglichen Airdrop! :) Ich setze mich für dich ein :)
@irgendwo(67)· 2348d
Some questions:

With steem I have seen it is possible to freeze accounts (could be basically the account of anyone) and with hive I do see a blacklist. So, there are witnesses which can decide who is good and evil, without any further discussion.
- How this should continue?
- How do I know the power will not be abused in the future?
That Justin Sun gets forked out with all his accounts, ok, I do understand that.
- Just, how do I know after that it might do not could hit the wrong people?
And it does look like there are accounts on the list that should not be there.
- Why this list is only short before the HF aviable?
@team-mexico(64)· 2348d
I support the sock witnesses and some steem witnesses for the sake of the Steem community and I'm not on the list, I really want to be there.

Why wasn't I blacklisted @team-mexico? I guess I'm not important or they are naive hahaha. Everything will be fine friend, do not fight for something that is not worth it. In the hive they will be pure wasps that sting and do not produce honey.

I love Steem and as a community I will work hard to bear the fruit it deserves. I am committed to @team-mexico.
@klye(75)· 2348d
If you drew your line in the sand by supporting witnesses that were trying to undermine our community it makes sense why you wouldn't be 100% welcomed with open arms into the new community after showing your colours.

You can't be rooting for Sun and simultaneously expecting a hand out from the people whose community Sun tried to destroy.. It doesn't work like that and it's absolutely fucking asinine to expect to be treated well and given a token handout when you don't deserve it.
@apsu(69)· 2348d
It's a shame, Steemworld has been one of the best services on Steem. Even if we see differently regarding Justin Sun's attempt to centralize Steem blockchain and actions taken by witnesses in attempt to prevent it, I think it would be great to see you on Hive.
@abitcoinskeptic(75)· 2348d
I really liked steemworld and still appreciate your efforts. I'm really sorry you were unable to get along with the witnesses and large stake holders. You even mentioned you were willing to opensource your code after some point.

I think if later on, if or when you want, you submit a proposal on Hive to get your airdrop and some extra hive to make a hiveworld, it will happen.

I'm probably not the only one who thinks like this.
@steemprojects(38)· 2348d
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@nokodemion(59)· 2348d
Exactly... Stay on steem... You did the right thing.
@wherein(68)· 2348d
This time I was very sad, the community was busy fighting and seizing power, and ignored SMT is the future of Steem.
@btcmillennial(62)· 2348d
@danielhuhservice(67)· 2348d
Für mich der Beweis das "HIVE" nur von eigenen Interessensgruppen erschaffen wird und nicht ehrlich ist.

Hier wird Geld aus dem nichts erschaffen!
@josua1(65)· 2348d
Sorry to hear that, but this unnecessary "war" is getting on your nerves!

Some users will dance on two weddings, others will choose a side, but this warring among each other can't be good for Steemit or the new hive, at least that's my opinion.
@cryptokannon(64)· 2348d
Keep on doing what you are good at and stay strong💜
@investinthefutur(71)· 2348d
@freiheit50 denkt du hast ein Vote durch @investinthefutur verdient! ----> Wer ist investinthefutur ?
@freiheit50 thinks you have earned a vote of @investinthefutur !----> Who is investinthefutur ?
@freiheit50(71)· 2348d
Das kann doch nicht wahr sein! Ich will es nicht glauben!! Ich hoffe sehr, dass es sich um einen Irrtum handelt. Einem der treuesten und besten Entwickler den Stuhl vor die Tür zu stellen, ist nicht nur dumm, sondern kriminell.

Ich protestiere!

Auf jeden Fall werde ich dich mit meinen Assets auf steem weiter unterstützen und hoffe, dass dieser Fehler korrigiert wird.

!invest_vote

P.S. @seo-boss steht auch in der Blacklist! Das muss auch korrigiert werden.
@investinthefutur(71)· 2348d
@meins0815 denkt du hast ein Vote durch @investinthefutur verdient! ----> Wer ist investinthefutur ?
@meins0815 thinks you have earned a vote of @investinthefutur !----> Who is investinthefutur ?
@beerlover(65)· 2348d
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@meins0815(70)· 2348d
nun, das dient ja doch als entscheidungshilfe WO man weitermacht (wenn denn überhaupt)

!invest_vote

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und !PIPPILANGSTRUMPF
@xels(75)· 2348d
Ich hoffe das lässt sich noch schnell ändern 🤬
@carapthian(46)· 2348d
It is refreshing that we can see some posts showing the other side of the coin in the feed. Until yesterday only posts bashing Justin and Hyping Hyves were visible. I don't condone the censorship Justin is doing now in the main feed as I think it is contrary to the set up of an open content sharing Platform like Steemit should be.

But I am happy with the side effect of this censorship, meaning that finally some other voices are shown.

Let's hope the censorship is just a temporary thing and will see some improved Steemit, with good content in the feed and maybe a continuous improvement in user interface. Onboarding Steemit should be made much more easy for new users.
@mindtrap(75)· 2348d
I think it’s up to you bud. If you want to develop steemworld even further on the HIVE side then I am sure you’ll be removed from the blacklist. Keep throwing accusations one to another makes no sense atm.

What’s done is done. Personally I’d love to use your tool on...the other side. And I know many feel the same. Through discussion we can sort things out. If however you choose to stay one Steem, I totally respect that.
@ausbitbank(74)· 2348d
You're perfectly welcome to join us on Hive, the "no free airdrop" list was using consistent rules for everyone. Directly supporting the bad actors performing a hostile takeover is not de-escalation. Despite that, you're perfectly welcome to join everyone on Hive, and we have an appeals process for those unfairly affected by the air-drop.
@jarvie(75)· 2348d
I'm pretty sure no person put you on a blacklist... the IF THEN mechanism of the decision simply had you on that side of the code and they couldn't pick favorites so save or otherwise. Sounds like they wanted to make sure there was no picking and choosing.

I really want to see you and your project on Hive... I know there are a lot of people who'd love to support you and what you do. Your site is wonderful.

I've seen people talk about how they'd be more than willing to support the recourse for you to get hive tokens equal to what they could have been.

However it does sound like you're not interested and that makes me sad... but I suppose that's your decision.
@andyjaypowell(75)· 2348d
Bist Du nicht für mich, so bin ich gegen Dich. Krank ist das.

P.S.:

Mir fehlt etwas der Durchblick bei diesem Thema. Aber generell finde ich es schade, wenn sich die Fronten so verhärten und alle unversöhnlich miteinander umgehen. Ich kann beim besten Willen nicht beurteilen, wer da nun Recht oder Unrecht hat. Womöglich geht es anderen auch so. Allerdings tendiere ich ganz klar zu dezentralisierten Strukturen. Ich fühle mich dort am besten aufgehoben, wo das am besten gesichert ist. Aber wo wird das sein?
@therealwolf(77)· 2348d
AFAIK the blacklist was strictly who voted in favor of the sockpuppets (i.e. pushed us into a corner to force the HF). I understand the problems around it and I hope it can be resolved later on. We just had to move fast for now.
@chriddi(68)· 2348d
@tipu curate

... und viele, viele Kopfschüttler! Das ist nicht zu glauben und zeigt exakt, worum es geht! Und immer gegangen ist... 😔

Comments · 66

^ who owns these accounts @sirvotesalot @ngc @z8teyb289qav9z @innerhive that were flooding comment sections from around 5 hours to 0 hours ETA for the HIVE snapshot of the STEEM blockchain to be taken?

Ways you can help the @informationwar!

@steemchiller and many other blacklisted users have all my support and understanding!

I guess it makes a lot of sense why they pickked the name hive....

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