#steemworld

SteemWorld Support / 2019-11-25

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This post was created by me (@steemchiller) to act as an alternative support initiative for SteemWorld (https://steemworld.org). Since I am currently in survival mode, I need to take action now to prevent SteemWorld from dying.

If the rewards from these daily posts should not be able to pay my monthly costs, there will be no other way than to make SteemWorld only usable by paying a monthly fee. Each user would than pay the fee (maybe 1 SBD) for each used account per month. The downside would be that you than could only switch to accounts for which the fee has been paid. Maybe I would add a bonus for new users with a reputation < 50 or so to make it more fair for new Steemians.

For costly and not account-related tools like Transfer Search I would use a different approach, maybe by making it possible to buy those features and use it by providing an in the buy process received per-account generated access code.

There is also a donation button in the top left corner of the site, which can be used to donate a custom amount and to help keeping SteemWorld free. If each user would send me just 1 SBD per month, I would be able to continue my development without adding the mentioned restrictions.

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Dieser Beitrag wurde von mir (@steemchiller) erstellt, um als alternative Unterstützungsinitiative für SteemWorld (https://steemworld.org) zu dienen. Da ich mich derzeit im Überlebensmodus befinde, muss ich jetzt Maßnahmen ergreifen, um zu verhindern, dass SteemWorld stirbt.

Wenn die Belohnungen dieser täglichen Beiträge meine monatlichen Kosten nicht decken können, gibt es keinen anderen Weg, als SteemWorld nur noch durch Zahlung einer monatlichen Gebühr nutzbar zu machen. Jeder Benutzer würde dann die Gebühr (vielleicht 1 SBD) für jedes verwendete Konto pro Monat bezahlen. Der Nachteil wäre, dass du dann nur noch zu Konten wechseln könntest, für welche die Gebühr bezahlt wurde. Vielleicht würde ich einen Bonus für neue Benutzer mit einer Reputation < 50 oder so hinzufügen, um es für neue Steemians fairer zu machen.

Für teure und nicht kontobezogene Tools wie Transfer Search würde ich einen anderen Ansatz wählen, vielleicht indem ich es möglich mache, diese Features zu kaufen und zu nutzen, indem man einen im Kaufprozess erhaltenen, pro Konto generierten Zugangscode bereitstellt.

Es gibt auch einen Spendenbutton in der linken oberen Ecke der Website, mit dem du einen benutzerdefinierten Betrag spenden und helfen kannst, damit SteemWorld kostenlos bleibt. Wenn jeder Benutzer mir nur 1 SBD pro Monat schicken würde, könnte ich meine Entwicklung, ohne die genannten Einschränkungen hinzufügen zu müssen, problemlos fortsetzen.

Comments · 48

@arthur.grafo(70)· 2382d
Hi Forgive my posting in an old post, but I wanted to ask you a question or two without making it public for all to see (I doubt many will come this far back to check comments to you).

I have created a new concept for a 'platform' but it rewards with digital coins AND with hard currencies of your choice. Those who join, they do not buy a coin, they buy a share in a hard asset, with a choice of the country it is in. A digital coin would also be needed but it is not the most important part of the concept.
I have created a number of businesses (from a bunkering company for supplying ships with fuel in the area around Cyprus - Shell bought me out) and a public company of over Euro 40 million, back in the mid 90s. So, I am not just a dreamer and on this idea I already have a number of business people interested. However, I do not have any programming knowledge and know very little about these platforms (only what I have learnt here in Steemit).

I need to get some information for working out what the costs would and whether I could use the STEEM blockchain (I need a blockchain so as to ensure that there is constant evidence of the investments by those signing up.

Any ideas on how I could go about this? If you can give some advice, I w ould rather give you my proton email addy - and maybe you could open such an email account on a temp basis, as I am not comfortable with discussing it in detail here in public.

Thanks.
@trayan(71)· 2460d
Steemworld is the best tool! I think I'll able to pay 1 SBD for the fee....
@wakeupkitty(72)· 2460d
Understandable. I seldom use it my connection is too slow to show me more as a white screen. I understand many , if it is a great help to them to do whatever they do with it you should ask money for it. Steem-engine is not free either. I wish you a good Saturday.
@irisworld(72)· 2460d
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@mima2606(72)· 2461d
Since a cople of weeks I spent from my Blogs 5 % of the rewards go automatically to @steemchiller.

In addition, a large part of the German community has decided to donate voluntarily every month. The Steemian @muelli

https://steempeak.com/steemworld/@muelli/keep-us-from-steemworld-s-downfall

takes care of it and becomes 1. every month a Steemchiller Day proclaim and remind all users to let something come. Greetings Michael

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@cgames(60)· 2462d
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@xpilar(75)· 2462d
Hi steemworld.org

We are very happy to be able to use steemworld with all the tools it provides today and will be open to all members. Donation can be there, it will always be something that gives.

extra modules / payment modules

But it can depend on payment modules for the development of new tools that must be subscribed to For example an editor that makes it easier and easier to use, many struggle with the simplified editor in steemit. not many people can htm. an editor who can place pictures text correctly and smmanan to make the blog look good, an editor with several options.

Jag misses a folder alternative where all my blogs are located to be able to in when I want to show one of the old blogs to someone for it is not easy to find again. nice with a folder that can be leafed in

You could put in an auto vote so the user can give votes to the ones he tends to vote on as it is in the old one on Steemvoter It has certainly thought of some and sure others as tips that could be that payment part

But be with you no matter what you do, but nice about the part that is day can be for everyone Think more coming tips that may be in the payment modules

Maybe you can develop a program for our SPUD (@streetstyle) campaign that runs every 1st. of the month, we can talk about it and what it can cos
@oldtimer(76)· 2463d
Do not count on donations and as a non-American project, don't expect much support either. The daily post will draw in haters and steem Gestapo. Start a subscription model and you'll find out exactly if your project is viable or not. If not just kill it and save your time sooner than later. For me personally is a very useful tool and I wouldn't mind paying 3SBD per month.
@arcange(79)· 2464d
Congratulations @steemworld.org! Your post was mentioned in the Steem Hit Parade in the following categories:
- Comments - Ranked 5 with 50 comments
- Pending payout - Ranked 4 with $ 39,47
@ew-and-patterns(71)· 2464d
You should have done that a long time ago...

It probably won't be 70 SBD per day, but I hope it is enough to survive until BTC and STEEM start going up again (approx. Q1 2020)
@sayee(75)· 2464d
I would be happy to pay every month. Hope you get funds and sponsorship.
@aceh1001art(11)· 2464d
Yes ...it is like
@smooth(74)· 2464d
I know you are a serious Steem app developer, which is something I generally support. I therefore believe that you deserve an explanation why I am downvoting this and why I will likely continue to downvote these posts (though I don't automate voting currently, so it will generally depend on whether I happen to see one when I have downvote power available)
1. I believe SPS is the primary intended and appropriate vehicle for ongoing project funding post HF21. If SPS voters do not decide to fund your project, to me it indicates a strong signal that your project in its present form is not deemed worthy of funding by the consensus of Steem stakeholders. The ability to, without broad consensus approval, nevertheless extract an income stream of rewards by posts and self-upvotes, potentially bought votes, friend votes, etc. is more of an exploit than a benefit, in my view, and makes this an appropriate use of downvotes.
2. When I downvoted, the post had a pending payout of about $50, or $25 after curation. Your web site is no doubt useful to some in the community and from what I have seen is definitely quality work, but funding it from rewards contributes only, at best, in a very limited and indirect way to Steem's urgent priorities of growth, onboarding, maintaining and growing the value of the Steem token, etc. In Steem's current precarious financial state, $750/month is a high cost for the platform/community budget to subsidize one of several dashboard/explorer type web sites. The stated plan to make such posts daily is excessive, at least at this reward level. Occasional developer posts which report on noteworthy releases or milestones, as others have done, is less problematic than the stated plan here of routine daily posts.
3. I wish you the best and I hope you can find a sustainable business model. Perhaps that could include a small user fee as you suggest, on-site advertisements, etc., or even possibly (hopefully temporarily) disabling some of the most resource-intensive features so the hosting cost can be reduced during this challenging period.
It is truly unfortunate that Steem is in the state that it is, in terms of price and therefore available resources (and further, at constant imminent risk of additional highly catastrophic price declines), but that only makes it even more critical that every single payout, particularly larger ones, be highly scrutinized to ensure they are extremely beneficial uses of very limited resources.
@beerlover(65)· 2464d
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@barmbo(73)· 2464d
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@investinthefutur(71)· 2464d
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@kirstin(74)· 2464d
Ich denke, dass wir es so schaffen können unser Steemworld am Leben zu erhalten! Wenn viele ihr Autovote oder was auch immer beauftragen und alle Sonderabgaben bereitstellen, kannste dich weiter beim Ausbau deines Projektes austoben!!

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@vincentnijman(74)· 2464d
Love Steemword and would be willing to pay per month ( with a price of around 1 SBD ). Keep it up!
@bashadow(70)· 2464d
I do not earn a lot of steem, but I will on every Sunday in conjunction with my FOG donation, send 1 steem to you via a wallet transfer, I know it is not much, but I do hope it helps some. I hope you do get enough support via donations to help with the cost, and to keep the program as free as possible. I have been a very long time user of steemworld, and have always thought highly of the program thank you for your efforts in the continuing building of it's capabilities.

I absolutely love the ease with which I can claim all those tiny token rewards. It used to take me thirty minutes to an hour to get them via the steemengine page, and it always required one or two page reloads.
@riverflows(82)· 2464d
Be happy to pay per month.

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@feuerelfe(67)· 2464d
ich habe heute auch was gesendet und möchte das in zukunft auch weiterhin machen--denn ich finde steemworld sehr gut --danke dafür-
@practicalthought(67)· 2464d

Each user would than pay the fee (maybe 1 SBD) for each used account per month.

If you move to this model, you would probably gain more participation if you accept Steem instead of only SBD. I can't remember the last time I was paid in SBD (not that I post regularly) and would be easier to transfer the Steem that is already in the wallet than needing to go exchange it for SBD.

I don't know the costs associated with running your program (which isn't even examining the time you are putting in for coding), but you might consider implementing a way for users to donate for others who either don't post a lot, or they do and receive little support. I see a lot of accounts out here that are lucky to make 1 SBD in a month and hate the thought of them losing access to your tool.

Thank you for the service you provide the community, and hopeful we can all come together in some way that rewards you for this service.
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@investinthefutur(71)· 2465d
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@bitandi(76)· 2465d
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@yehey(64)· 2465d
Make it a STEEM donation so I can send you 1 every month to support this project. Not much but it will help move forward. I'm sure the community will follow through.

Cheers, @Yehey
@sco(65)· 2465d
Ich würde das Umstellen auf Gebühren natürlich schade finden, aber als ultimo ratio wäre das wie schon öfter erwähnt absolut verständlich. Drücke dir die Daumen, dass es auch so geht, und natürlich lasse ich dir meine 2 Cent (100% vote) gerne da.
@glenalbrethsen(71)· 2465d
Hey, @steemworld.org @steemchiller:

Asking for financial support is never easy, and when that support is essentially a moving target, it compounds things. I went looking for your proposal a couple of days ago to see how it was doing and couldn't find it. I then saw in a comment that you'd removed it. Can't say that I blame you at all, given some responses by some prominent STEEM users, but I'm frustrated that the SPS can't act as a consistent funding source.

So, at present, we have a funding pool that doesn't really fund. Not very useful in its present state, but maybe after a couple years of that happening someone will wake up and fix it, if there's still a need or anyone around to use it.

Whatever you decide to do about funding, I will do my best to support. I find myself weighing my own options as to what I will be doing on STEEM moving forward, though I will probably continue on as I have until I can see what Communities will look like and how that might help.

Otherwise, my contributions to this grand experiment may have to wane even further for other priorities.

I wish you well. Thank you for all you've done and continue to do with steemworld to provide us with so many data points and more.
@artemislives(74)· 2465d
Grateful & supported 100% on behalf of my curation trail. For some reason, the almost weekly "would I like to support?" pop ups have stopped happening. Not sure why, but I was always happy to upvote decently when the pop up came. Maybe others are missing that reminder too? Please bring it back. I use steemworld every day and really appreciate the tool. Yes, I would pay to use it.

Encouraging hugs from Thailand.
@irisworld(72)· 2465d
I hope you will get enough funding for your project. I like the tools you have in your website
@dmitrydao(68)· 2465d
Yo, thanks for continuos effort of trying to get funded. I love your persistence. I was wondering how many people actually use your website? There are so many cool tools for Steem but even the best stop continued work due to the lack of funding (not good tbh but that's sad facts).

So the question is, can you provide some data on the usage of your website so that people can get an idea if your future development efforts make any sense?

It's not that a tool is bad or something, it's just how many are actually using it. SteemProposals, for instance, has only 50-70 daily users, even though that's a default website where people check the proposals. SteemPeak, Busy, Actifit less than 500, at least according to SteemApps.com

I understand that you're trying to replace a traditional income with funds from proposals but I think it's kind of tricky now. Even though the budget is not too small, there are only a few people with enough SP that can help to pass return proposal threshold. I personally observe the whole situation and don't really like it as well, so I'm actively looking the ways on improving the whole process.

In any case, despite how much I love Steem Proposal System to help more people to get compensated for their work, I highly advise you to start working on some team that will actually pay you a salary. Then, you can actually have a financial relief and continue building SteemWorld if that's your baby.

Hope that helps in a way.
@abitcoinskeptic(75)· 2465d
The site keeps getting better and better. Always happy to support. I hope you get a new proposal going soon. Compared to quite a few, this one is definitely worthy. Don't worry about the others at top, eventually, they will give this one a chance again.
@japanesemask(45)· 2465d
Here is my full upvote! Keep it as is.
@fullcoverbetting(74)· 2465d
!trdo
@maxdevalue(69)· 2465d
Help is on the way brother, we love what you’re doing and will support every idea that can improve it. We love STEEMWORLD!

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@steemitboard(66)· 2465d
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@kaminchan(76)· 2465d
Hope you’ll get lots of support very soon! The crypto mood is too bearish at the moment! Too much bad news about China!

But the halfing is coming! Be patient!
@xels(75)· 2465d
Mach doch öfter mal nen Kostendeckungspost. Du bekommst mit Sicherheit auch dann genauso viel Unterstützung wie sonst auch!!
@der-prophet(77)· 2465d
Hey @steemchiller Lade dir doch bitte @esteem auf dein Smartphone oder Pc damit man dich auch zusätzlich mit eSTEEM bonuspunkte fördern kann. Diese bonuspunkte kannst Du als Boost für deine Post verwenden.

Und es lohnt sich 150 Punkte sind schon mal 30 Cent Wert und die bekommt jeder Nutzer recht schnell zusammen.
@trincowski(72)· 2465d
Nice idea! I hope you keep it Close Sourced, after the largest part of the community showed - through the SPS - that they don't see enough value in your work. They sure don't deserve to have this excellent program for a mere $50 or $60. 😒

Please keep it running and we'll be here to support you!
@investinthefutur(71)· 2465d
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@beerlover(65)· 2465d
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@muelli(74)· 2465d

... muss ich jetzt Maßnahmen ergreifen, um zu verhindern, dass SteemWorld stirbt.

Außergewöhnliche Situationen, erfordern halt manchmal außergewöhnliche Maßnahmen. Das gilt auch für die Nutzer der SteemWorld! 😎

!invest_vote !BEER !COFFEEA
@clixmoney(78)· 2465d
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