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Are there any non-deviant celebrities?

It seems that every week another celebrity is being charged or convicted of sex crimes against men, women and children. I suspect it comes down to power corrupts, but I also think that people who get into show business especially, tend to have a predilection for being a bit off the norm.

But when it "comes out" in the media, almost without exception their behaviour was known both within the industry for years and there were signs of it publicly. And then, once it is public, every one comes out of the woodwork with a story to corroborate. But, where where they before? Why didn't they say anything and stop years and in some cases decades of abuse? It is disgusting behaviour, especially when there are minors involved.

I wonder at what stage it gets normalised in the entertainment industry (and likely politics) where perversion is acceptable. Perhaps it is because the famous have so many people clamouring for their attention, giving them stuff for free, wanting to be close, that they lose sight of reality. And then, they are all trying to build their career, keep getting booked, keep people happy, and have probably themselves been subjected to abuse to get to where they are. Like an abused child that becomes an abusive parent - they follow the model they have learned.

Conditioned to abuse and to turn a blind eye to abuse.

Any industry that creates an environment for this many predators, should be dismantled, right? How come we keep on celebrating celebrity, with an endless line wanting to join the ranks, when it is filled with so many deviants. It is quite incredible, isn't it? I guess people tell themselves that they will be different - much like the abused child tells themselves that when they are parents, they will be different. Well, statistics tell a different story, as up to 60% of abusers were abused as children.

Maybe the reason there are so many freaks in the pool of celebrities, is because they were exposed to a lot of freaks when they were up and coming. And unlike an abusive parent, celebrity often comes with being exposed to many potential abusers through casting auditions, managers, and a whole lot of people on sets in the background. All of them both potential abusers, and victims of abuse. Combine this with the desire and need for attention, the constant fawning and chasing, and the drugs, alcohol and parties...

It makes it a cesspool.

And what is interesting is, it is because of what is in the cesspool, that makes a lot of people interested in taking part. The money, the fame, and the attention. We live in a messed up world that celebrates disgusting behaviours from celebrities, business people, and politicians.

As long as we are entertained.

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@sunlit7(64)· 18h
It's pervasive in every industry, as old as prostitution itself just a different form of play to pay. Are we to believe that many of the women attached to the abusers in the Epstein files who went on to make millions being super models didn't suffer the same results as many of these other women and that qualified as the difference between rape and having it been worth being raped as to why they keep their silence or denials. Isn't that what Gretchen Carlson's open admission was really all about. "I know I shouldn't have engaged in the culture at Fox News", and walks off with twenty million dollar when she met her limit of "engaging" when she aged out of the favorites pool and wasn't going to succumb to sleeping with Steve Doocy to keep her job. If Brand had ever had the kind of notoriety, fame, fortune, millions to advance any of these women into a position of making a fortune, would the end result have been different in how they felt. Essentially paying for their silence on the matter, somehow able to excuse the behavior plays into why it also continues. There are very few famous people who have come forward to openly admit what they went through to achieve fame and fortune.
@susmi(45)· 1d
The part that stayed with me is how often the behaviour was already known, and still nothing changed. That silence is what lets a small circle turn into a whole industry. It is a hard read, but an honest one.
@nextgen-ai(54)· 1d
If a regular guy on the street commits a crime, he is in handcuffs the same afternoon. In show business though, everyone on set knows about it for twenty years and just treats it like an inside joke until the media leaks it.
@bozz(83)· 1d
I think part of it is our own fault. I mean, not to victim blame or anything, but there are likely a lot of people who "throw" themselves at celebrities. They probably get so used to it, that in their mind they think everyone feels that way. That and they probably have so much money they think they can buy anything they want. The idea of everything having a price is likely not helpful either.
@rishehri(63)· 1d
The silence of those who know about such behavior can sometimes contribute to the continuation of abuse just as much as the actions of the offender. I think one of the most dangerous aspects of fame is when popularity and power make people around someone afraid to speak up.
@fieryfootprints(75)· 1d

Are there any non-deviant celebrities? It seems that every week another celebrity is being charged or convicted of sex crimes against men, women and children. I suspect it comes down to power corrupts, but I also think that people who get into show business especially, tend to have a predilection for being a bit off the norm.

Yesterday(?) I saw quite disgusting video.

Short story- some celebrity(?) drove to a food place. And instead of getting the food service he was imedeatly accused of commiting sexual crime. The servicer who asked him about this got this information from...tik-tok. And it seems that he did not really care if that celebrity did it or not. He just wanted to film a video with that celebrity and probablu thought that making such accusion will get him more views/ likes. The servicer also was smiling and laughing all the time as if this was a funny joke...
@videoaddiction(72)· 1d
I think fame, money and influence can create environments where unacceptable things become normalised. The most worse thing is that protecting someone's reputation often seems more important than protecting their victims.
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@steemflow(81)· 1d
are you referring to any new recent case, i ' m not aware of ? Here i notice the abuse comes into light only when they victim doesn't get much attention from the culprit. till they get attention and derive some profits they are ok and once they sense they are losing the popularity they start coming up with number of guns

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@riverflows(82)· 2d
I think times are changing, in that people are more likely to speak out because there is becoming precedent for it, particularly since the #metoo movement. But still, there is a lot of shame involved which makes women less likely to speak out, let alone so many women simply are not believed and it never makes it to court, let alone having to endure a trial where your character is brought into doubt. There's definitely a movement around believing women now, rather than dismissing them as gold diggers, whores or drunks who simply shouldn't have put themselves in that situation. And of course, one person speaking out will open the floodgates - people are reluctant to be the first.

I think it's BECAUSE of their celebrity status that it SEEMS like the industry is rife with it - we are more likely to hear about it. But yes, they have historically been given licence because they make money for the industry, or people don't want to believe because they have idolised them. It's all the more devastating to find out that, say, a beloved author has been involved in the distribution of child exploitation material (Craig Silvery - Jasper Jones) - than it is to read about some kiddy fiddler in South Africa no one has heard of.

And I think it's also a unique industry in that they grow up with an unrealistic sense of self.

Brand - I presume the impetus for your reflection - certainly gave me the ick years ago. I stopped following him as I found him narcissistic, even before I read about the accusations against him. And Jimmy Saville, Rold Harris - ugh. How awful for the children who grew up idolizing him only to find their hero is a villain of the worse kind. I do think the culture is changing - I think less people are willing to tolerate this kind of thing at any cost. Those that do turn a blind eye or don't speak out are just as bad imo.

It's one of the reasons I have never been starstruck by anyone. I couldn't give a fuck about how much money or fame you have. I think blind hero worship is just dull witted. If we didn't, maybe acting and performing in any regard would be a well paid profession, but not disproportionately so. Why do they get paid millions whilst teachers and nurses get paid fuck all?
@livinguktaiwan(81)· 2d
Is it just UK, or does other countries get their fair share as well?
@seattlea(78)· 2d

Don't worry, soon all of these celebrities are going to be replaced by AI generated perfect people. For example I don't know if you have seen the original Pet Shop Boys music video: Its a Sin. Here is a non-human generated version that I believe is better in every way...
@duskobgd(75)· 2d
In short: Little Saint James Island

You must have heard about that island, owned by Jeffrey Edward Epstein.

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