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Dear Power Peeps, Did You Learn Anything You Would Apply If Given A 2nd Chance?

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Dear Power Peeps,

As Steem has now broken sub 20cents, I have some questions for you:

1 Did you learn anything you would apply if you are given a 2nd Chance to make Steem/Steemit successful?

2 Did you learn that speaking to your customers (people that use the system) is important?

3 Did you learn that "the SPAM we got with many customers" was better than "almost no customers but with no spam"?

4 Did you learn that letting people "bully" people into submission will turn many people off and make them leave?

5 Did you learn that people like @fulltimegeek, @abh12345, and @paulag should be supported since they did their best to keep people engaged and feeling part of a community?

6 Did you learn that voting bots that give people limited upside and unlimited downside is a big turnoff, and leads to a terrible message of "greed is good" by the people running the platform (since nothing was done about it for so long)?

7 Did you learn that "circle jerks" should be discouraged and that the big abusers should be reigned in by the people with true "power"?

8 Did you learn that protecting the % of your investment by self-voting and/or donating to a community that does it for you, will keep your percentage of ownership, but bring the whole value of your investment down?

9 Did you learn that the self-righteous laissez-faire attitude that "its ok that everyone can do anything they want, simply because people don't want to "get involved" with policing others", will lead to bad behavior that eventually makes the platform a ghost town as people get sick of the abuses and the lack of power to change anything? IE...with greater power comes greater responsibilities if you want this to succeed.

10 Did you learn that people don't want to pay to make comments on social media? (ie the RC issue that restricted people's ability to comment drove them away)

11 Did you learn that Steem/Steemit is a business like all other businesses and requires a collaboration of not only technology geniuses, but also sales/marketing and customer support/relations?

12 Did you learn that Steem the token has much more value if you have many more people using it via Steemit as a social platform? NOTE: this one is for those idiots that said Steemit was just a test and not important for Steem to have value.

13a Did you learn that if too much power is concentrated at the top, then all the real governance will be skewed to what those at the top want and people will feel they have no say?

13b Did you learn if too much governance is concentrated at the top, then the decision makers lose touch with what the masses are interested in? (Note: the feedback loop gets broken and the king is never told he has no clothes)

14 Did you learn that if you ignore people trying to give you "help" via criticism, you are missing ideas that might actually be doing you a favor and improving the product? (Note: instead of being defensive and dismissive, next time try to embrace ideas from all)

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I think some things that Steemit/Steem have accomplished are amazing. I have continued to use it and be a participant since the day I got here. And while I think there are many lessons to learn, I do think there was much done that is very solid too.

I truly hope the people in power take the time to learn these lessons, instead of looking at this as an attack. Most all of these issues have been brought up by me in the past on my posts or comments. After realizing that nobody with any power cared (or weren't listening), I stopped offering tough but constructive advice. I am sure this has also happened to many others and why many have "moved on".

So while this is a critical piece, it is also serious in hopes there is a 2nd chance. We all hope that things will be done differently "next time". I truly hope the Power Peeps learned, and the 2nd chance will lead to something truly fantastic.

Sincerely,

Dave McCoy

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Comments · 18

  • @rentmoney(77)· 2566d

    Did you learn that people don't want to pay to make comments on social media? (ie the RC issue that restricted people's ability to comment drove them away)

    I don't follow much of the politics on STEEM but I do believe the above was a massive blunder and at the time of its introduction I voiced my concerns about that.

    Steemit is a social media site even though some like to claim it isn't. Today's world offers countless FREE ways to blog and do other activities that social media sites (Like Steemit) provide so expecting users to come here and pay was a little ambitious of those who decided to implement the change.

    I do think the pay to play model could work but first Steemit/Steem needs to build its user base allot bigger then it currently is so the blow of user loss doesn't hit as hard once its implemented.

    The other big issue I see is advertisement. Why don't I see any adds for STEEMIT anywhere ? I mean even basic grunt work of putting up some physical billboards / road signs .... would be a step in the right direction. I don't see it advertised on any random web-pages either.

    This place is hard to find, hard to sign up to and hard to get noticed on. No need in making it hard to participate on as well.

  • @simplymike(69)· 2568d

    Sad to see that one only needs to take a look at the downvotes on this post to know the answers to your questions.... :0(

  • @arcange(79)· 2569d

    Congratulations @davemccoy! Your post was mentioned in the Steem Hit Parade in the following category:

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  • @lordbutterfly(80)· 2569d

    I just want to flag bastards.

    Its as simple as that for me.

    Posting doesnt earn me much, comments neither. The selfvoting i do is once per occasional post.

    Hf21 wont do anything. It will make things different but thats it.

    Quality creators will leave since the price is steadily going down to the ATL and posting is a waste of time since

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  • @berniesanders(77)· 2570d

    Based on this post, I’ve learned you’re naive and love to support fucking trash like you mention above. Goodbye.

  • @luegenbaron(65)· 2570d

    Interesting. Will join this topic later on.

    Now I gotta do real-life stuff..^^

  • @cryptogee(76)· 2570d

    Excellent post, I wish we could get it featured because you have just hit several nails on the head!

    I will resteem and hopefully get more people voting this up, however it is like one of the problems you've mentioned. The bidbots have destroyed any chance that posts like this deserve.

    I found myself yesterday trying to explain Steemit to a friend I haven't seen for a while, and I struggled to say anything positive about it.

    He logged on and saw the trending page while I was talking and said; *"...this is a pyramid scheme." I didn't even have the strength to argue with him.

    Cg

  • @lynncoyle1(64)· 2570d

    Well Dave, I come and go as time allows, but I still see that unfortunately not much has changed here. There's also not much I can add to all the comments, except to say that it's nice to see you still trying to improve this platform.

    Hope life is treating you well buddy😊❤️

  • @paulag(74)· 2570d

    Some good news is that we do have a second chance but I think it will end up being third time lucky.

    I have been thinking a lot lately about how broke steem seems to be and I dont think hf21 is the answer. I have also been looking at the operations of other blockchain solutions such as ono & dlive and I personally feel steem needs a complete rework. I do have loads of ideas, and it would make up a white paper if I wrote them all down.

    Thank you very much for the acknowledgement you gave me in this post, it's really nice 🤗. There are many more of us in the gang and you are truly part of it, we r inclusive not exclusive.

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  • @steem-plus(74)· 2571d

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  • @joshman(74)· 2571d

    This is an awesome post on so many levels. I think that in the past people have feared retaliation from the bad elements, but now the price of Steem is so low they've got nothing to lose. People are starting to see through the weak rationalisations applied to toxic behavior by people with more stake than sense.

    People are also starting to band together to pressure the change they want to see.

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  • @helpiecake(55)· 2571d

    Hello!

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  • @niallon11(77)· 2571d

    There are a lot of good statements in this post that I would love to see addressed. While we might have the best blockchain in terms of technology and use case, we are significantly falling behind in terms of STEEM for real people. While there are lots of apps on the blockchain now compared to just having steemit like in the past, we are still haunted by basic users friendliness.

    People being able to sign up instantly, posts and interact without being abused and get their content noticed by other users. I still don't know how i stayed the course over the first six months as I wrote to nobody, earned nothing and had my account attacked by a large stakeholder for calling them out on abuse. But I did and i'm still here because I can see what we could do here. The potential of the STEEM system.

    So many users that have left over the past couple of years due to to the same old issues. At least with the tribes some of them are trying to do it right from the start. Have mod accounts to silence the shit posts and curators to push the good ones. If we are going to be successful then it won't have anything to do with steemit.com as a site for users it will be the apps that bring people in. My first task for the proposal system will be to present for a way to onboard people instantly so that all the apps can sign up people straight to their own site and not go anywhere near steemit.com. Join palnet or another site until they get the hang of the system and look into everything else later on.

    I think that in the future most people won't even see the STEEM side of things. They will sign up through the different apps, just use those and then have a wallet for STEEM and whatever token they are earning. The won't ever see the side of it that we deal with now. All it will take is the right tools for people to make this happen.

  • @maxwellmarcusart(80)· 2571d

    Thoughtful questions that need to be put into consideration. Wish the top gurus will see this.

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  • @abitcoinskeptic(75)· 2571d

    Is Steem value low enough yet for a true second chance? Will it not just mostly play out the same way? Although Steem has been losing to both BTC and USD, including market ranking, I think they is a fundemnetal issue with inflation causing this an not Steem itself since it is better than most blockchains with higher values. I suspect quality content creators just don't think Steem is worth it as this point and we are left with niche content producers that cannot possibly onboard enough new users (myself included).

  • @bashadow(70)· 2571d

    customer support/relations?

    What is that on steemit? Where is it on steemit? Who is it on Steemit?

    No one knows, I don't think it exists.

    After realizing that nobody with any power cared (or weren't listening), I stopped offering tough but constructive advice.

    While what I offered was more of opinion as a user, yeah, pretty much gave up on that. No ears on the receiving side. I still remember there POLL about downvotes, 32 hours old, poll closed the vast majority agreed with it. Yeah vast in their minds was less than 0.00002% of the active people on steemit or there about at my uneducated guess.

    Steemit, not stem block chain, is a neighborhood bully, and an unconcerned governing body. I know they will deny it, but when it only takes two people to decide the witnesses, well, not good.

    I think the two top witnesses voters should un vote all the people they are currently voting for and recuse themselves from witness voting for two years, just to see what an organic set of witnesses would look like.

  • @hitmeasap(75)· 2571d

    First of all, you would probably have to spend about 200 Steem on this to get the attention it actually deserves... The only thing I can do is to Resteem it. Not that I think it will help much...

    Now, I'll do my best to answer your questions even though I'm not a "power peep":


    1 Did you learn anything you would apply if you are given a 2nd Chance to make Steem/Steemit successful?

    Honestly speaking? Not really. It feels like I've already done literally everything I can, and it actually feels like most of the things I have done has been in vain.

    2 Did you learn that speaking to your customers (people that use the system) is important?

    From the moment I got here, I focused 101% on my audience. I replied to each and every single comment I got, on any article I got, and I tried to do this even on months or year old articles. I also voted on the majority of those comments, not to give them a bunch of rewards, but as a "token of appreciation". I wanted them to know that I cared about them. This is also why I've often said that my audience is my most valuable asset.

    I think that some people should've done the same thing...

    3 Did you learn that "the SPAM we got with many customers" was better than "almost no customers but with no spam"?

    Content is valuable and the most vital ingredient for the survival of Steem. I don't personally like spam, but I'd rather have some spam and active people, than no spam and no people.

    4 Did you learn that letting people "bully" people into submission will turn many people off and make them leave?

    I have tried to stay away from "flagwars" and whatever ever since I got here in July 2016. I think it's a total waste of time, and I've seen many, many bad things happen because of it. It's one thing to target someone with flags to counter "reward pool rape" though.

    5 Did you learn that people like @fulltimegeek, @abh12345, and @paulag should be supported since they did their best to keep people engaged and feeling part of a community?

    Yup. These people are amazing. I can't say much about FTG or his intentions nowadays though, because I haven't heard or seen him in a long time... But I definitely miss the SOG days. That must've been one of few times Steem was so active and fun. The positive-attitude and the pay-it-forward mindset spread like wildfire during those days.

    6 Did you learn that voting bots that give people limited upside and unlimited downside is a big turnoff, and leads to a terrible message of "greed is good" by the people running the platform (since nothing was done about it for so long)?

    Greed and selfish behaviour has practically killed the fun on Steem. The overall engagement is less and many "well-known authors" started to produce articles with less quality than before just to earn. Especially when bidbots became the "new normal" on Steem and they could buy their way to the top, so to speak. This also lead to the fact that many authors doesn't respond to comments anymore, which kills the idea of a "blogging platform" or a "social media platform".

    7 Did you learn that "circle jerks" should be discouraged and that the big abusers should be reigned in by the people with true "power"?

    I don't want to say too much about this, but from my understanding, the only reason for a bunch of people to have what they have today, is because of the voting-circles they were invited too early. And that has been going on ever since. And... I'm not sure on this, but I've heard that it was Ned who was behind it all.

    8 Did you learn that protecting the % of your investment by self-voting and/or donating to a community that does it for you, will keep your percentage of ownership, but bring the whole value of your investment down?

    I actually think that self-votes should be banned, and that manual curation should be the only way to earn on Steem... But that will never happen. People would just create multiple accounts and publish crap to self-vote.

    Also, self-voting is literally the only reason for investors to join, if and when they decides to do it. And most of the powerful people obviously allows- and does it too.

    I've often felt that so many users on Steem wants quantity. They want as much Steem Power as possible, and that sort of makes them ignore the value of the tokens they have. They seem to think that the more Steem they have, the richer they will be, but it's a dumb move as the value keeps going down.

    Oh and btw. I self-vote too. Especially now when manual curation has practically vanished.

    9 Did you learn that the self-righteous laissez-faire attitude that "its ok that everyone can do anything they want, simply because people don't want to "get involved" with policing others", will lead to bad behavior that eventually makes the platform a ghost town as people get sick of the abuses and the lack of power to change anything? IE...with greater power comes greater responsibilities if you want this to succeed.

    Yup. Unfortunately, it seems like the lesser accounts are the ones that are doing all the heavy lifting. At least most of it. So it's basically impossible to change things. You can't change things without power.

    10 Did you learn that people don't want to pay to make comments on social media? (ie the RC issue that restricted people's ability to comment drove them away)

    I have no idea... This must've been one of the craziest ideas ever. I can see why RC is needed and whatever, but I still can't see a single reason for anyone to join Steem and pay to make comments when they have Facebook and other social media platforms. Other platforms that are social.

    I guess some ignorant people would answer this with "because of no censorship" or "decentralization" and whatever, and yeah... Those 7 anarchist-fuck-the-government type of people who're living in a basement somewhere.. Well, I guess they join because of that.

    I truly hate that there has been so insane amount of focus on the "decentralized" part whenever people have tried to promote Steem. Bob from Facebook doesn't give a damn about Steem being decentralized or not.

    11 Did you learn that Steem/Steemit is a business like all other businesses and requires a collaboration of not only technology geniuses, but also sales/marketing and customer support/relations?

    My main business as a freelancer were brand building, and I worked as a full time freelancer for several years. With only a fraction of all the rewards and payments some people got during the time I've been here for their "advertising campaigns" and whatever, I'm sure I would've had 47 times better results.

    No one asked me though, as bigger accounts in general on Steem doesn't listen to lesser accounts.

    12 Did you learn that Steem the token has much more value if you have many more people using it via Steemit as a social platform? NOTE: this one is for those idiots that said Steemit was just a test and not important for Steem to have value.

    I've read articles and comments from several people saying that Steemit isn't necessary... Yet it's still basically the first thing people visit & use frequently when they hear about Steem(it).

    13a Did you learn that if too much power is concentrated at the top, then all the real governance will be skewed to what those at the top want and people will feel they have no say?

    I realized that a long time ago, but power is what talks on Steem. Many of them ignore "lesser accounts" based on the wallet size. Size is basically the only thing that matters on Steem.

    13b Did you learn if too much governance is concentrated at the top, then the decision makers lose touch with what the masses are interested in? (Note: the feedback loop gets broken and the king is never told he has no clothes)

    See above.

    14 Did you learn that if you ignore people trying to give you "help" via criticism, you are missing ideas that might actually be doing you a favor and improving the product? (Note: instead of being defensive and dismissive, next time try to embrace ideas from all)

    Haha. See above again.

  • @cryptkeeper17(65)· 2571d

    In this case I wish you were wrong, but unfortunately your are not. Time to rethink the strategy and have a hell of an idea of what this platform wants--and how to get it otherwise the 'moves' at the top are nothing more than for show. Get a clue of the game theory and behavior you want steemit to make up, then go from there. Blindly tossing a 'tokenized social network' out to the sharks to devour and turn into a radioactive garbage heap sure wasn't the answer, but luckily the games and other dapps have come through for you finally and picked up a great deal of slack. This needs to be available to sample for the masses, once they find out about and are given a chance to stay. There is enough creative people in this ecosystem to make it work, but creativity, economic and game theory don't work the greatest under "tyrannical indifference." Many of what you talk about @davemccoy has all happened verbatim how it's described by you in this post. The key is bringing more or better, take that back better creativity and vision to overhaul the platform and become more proactive. Steemit Inc is not at fault for the crypto meltdown but due to prior piss poor management it's getting passed by outright concepts that don't carry a fraction of the practical ability of what has happened recently. So until the public gets wind of what's going on here we sit and watch the tumbleweeds roll through until fresh people replace the defectors and we as a community as a whole do a better job of keeping them around if at all possible.