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A Geeky Dad's Movie Guide to Star Wars: The Last Jedi (2017) (No Spoilers)

Review by @hanshotfirst · 3117d · of Star Wars: The Last Jedi

Before I begin this review from the perspective of a geeky dad, the 46 year old huge Star Wars fan in me would like to say a few words about...



If you are an adult who is a huge Star Wars fan, please repeat these words before seeing this movie:

This movie was not created for me. It was created for kids and new Star Wars fans. (Edit 12/16: I just saw it for a second time and had a much more enjoyable experience. I turned off my brain and just enjoyed. You can read about it here.)


I truly believe that if adult Star Wars fans keep this in mind and lower their expectations quite a bit, they will have a better chance of enjoying this movie. Sadly, the huge Star Wars fan that lives in me did not know to do this before viewing the movie. He is now crying.*

Maybe it would have been better if I were expecting this...


*Everything is awesome! Everything is awesome when you make a movie for kids and new fans!*

But the geeky dad is smiling. Why? Because my 12 year old son LOVED this movie. Not only did he excitedly (but quietly) tell me a few things during the movie, he could not stop talking about it on the way home. He was amazed at how much was tied to the books and video games he loves. He frantically explained details about how certain villains got their armor and why weapons were so special. Basically, he loved it enough for both of us.

I am not just a crotchety old Star Wars fan who likes his X-Wings to look like models and his Yoda to look like a puppet (of course I am those things but there is much more). I loved The Force Awakens and I enjoyed Rogue One. If I were to rank the Star Wars movies in order it would be:

  1. Empire Strikes Back
  2. A New Hope
  3. Force Awakens
  4. Return of the Jedi
  5. Rogue One
  6. The Last Jedi

I won't even rank the prequels because they suck so much I want to forget they exist. But as you can see, I actually enjoyed The Force Awakens more than one of the original trilogy.

After seeing, The Force Awakens, I felt that it was a farewell love letter not only to Han Solo, but to fans like me as well. Rather than being a true sequel, I thought it was a reboot of the series aimed at building a bridge between old fans like me and their children. (For me it was only my daughter because my son was already a true fan).

After seeing The Last Jedi I am now convinced. The Force Awakens was definitely a message to Fans who grew up in the 70s and 80s. That message:

"OK old men. You had your fun. Here's one last movie for you... but then it is time to give a new generation what you had for the past 40 years. Thanks for your loyalty and for raising kids with excellent taste. Now go sit in the back and watch your kids have fun."*


*See ya middle-aged fans. It's been a hell of a ride! May the Force Be With You.*

That is what I did tonight while watching The Last Jedi. Personally I did not enjoy very much of this film. There were a couple of cool shout outs to the original trilogy (but I refuse to spoil them). There were also a few exciting (but short) battles, and many of the jokes were funny. But aside from that, there wasn't much for me.*

The plot has some very serious holes. They "yada-yada-yada" over some very important details, they include characters and creatures for no discernible reason and the end is incredibly unsatisfying. In the future, after everyone has seen the movie, I will post a rant about all these issues as well as all the times I asked "Why did that happen?" There were many. (Not quite as many as Batman v Superman but more than any non-prequel Star Wars movie). I honestly don't think the intended audience is there for the plot. They are there for fun and action... even if it is fairly mindless according to the huge Star Wars fan in me.*


I missed Han so much I thought I should add as much of him here as possible.


I think the casting is excellent. There isn't much that you can do to make Mark Hammill a better actor but the writers and director did not put him in very many difficult situations. They kept it easy for him and he did fine. It was wonderful to see Carrie Fisher get to play one of my favorite female characters one last time. She will be missed. I think the producers hit a home run with Daisy Ridley, Oscar Isaac, and John Boyega. Heck I even like Adam Driver as Kylo Ren. The acting is not the problem.

The special effects are absolutely stunning. The space battles look amazing. The CGI characters look very real. No complaints there either.

Although the movie was long (almost 2 1/2 hours long) there is quite a bit of action. While my family enjoyed the action, I felt it was tainted by the fact that so much of the setup made very little sense. Yes the action was cool... but was most of it necessary? Would the characters really be in the position to have to carry out the action sequences? Were all of the combat moves plausible? I was thinking too much about these questions to truly enjoy. Because of this, I was actually bored during many scenes.*


*This looked really cool. Just don't ask me why it took place.*

The writers attempted to work in a significant amount of humor. I'd say 2/3 of it worked. Some jokes were just too hokey for an adult... but my kids laughed at every joke. Far too many made me face-palm and shake my head. Once again, it was obvious that I was not the intended audience for the humor.*

The same was true of the "cute" creatures including the now famous penguin-like porgs. I have no idea why they were in the movie (neither does my computer because it won't let me type it!) Actually that is a lie. I know exactly why they are in the movie. Some focus group of little girls must have loved them. My 10 year old daughter sure did.


*My wife and daughter loved these turtle faced things dressed like nuns. The Star Wars fan in me died a little bit just writing that.**

Actually the entire movie seems like it was many scenes patched together to satisfy many different focus groups. Sadly the "Middle-aged hardcore Star Wars fan" focus group only had scraps tossed to us. The meat clearly went to the little kids and their non-initiated parents focus group.

All of this may make it seem like I hated this experience. Nothing could be further form the truth. Although I did not enjoy the movie, I cherished the experience. My kids had enough fun for all of us. The fact that my wife liked it was an added bonus. The cherry on top was that my 10 year old daughter was so excited that she actually stayed awake for the entire movie even though it ended 90 minutes after her bedtime.


Unknown.jpeg Although my kids are a little bit older than these two, they shared the same facial expression during the entire movie.


If I had to choose between me loving it or my kids loving it, I would pick them every single time.

I had a childhood filled with awesome Star Wars memories. Now it is their turn.

I'm taking them to see it in IMAX on Saturday. Maybe it will grow on me... (12/16 edit: It did!)

Geeky Dad's Movie Guide

Number of times I fell asleep: 0 Number of eye rolls: 6 (Plot holes, unexplained Jedi powers, and the feeling that this movie was made for a series of focus groups.) Number of face palms: 4 (A couple of jokes were just too ridiculous plus they missed some huge opportunities) Number of times my kid asked to go to the bathroom or get food out of sheer boredom: 0 Number of times I checked steemit: 0 Number of times I said "That's ridiculous": 2 Did my kids like it: They LOVED it! Would I see it without my kids: Yes (But then again, I saw all the prequels in the theater... I'm an addict.) Full price/Matinee/Rental/Free/Not worth the time: Full Price (Based solely on watching my kids have fun)

*12/16 edit: I just returned from seeing it a second time. All of the flaws I pointed out were based on my perspective, not the movie. I still stand by my words but I have a much more positive opinion of the movie now. You can read about it here.

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Comments · 69

  • @benbryant(36)· 3082d

    Funnily enough, i liked what most people hated.

    I loved thatcher Snoke wasn’t an old character and that Rey wasn’t related to anyone. The galaxy is big, really big and having these people linked somehow to the old characters would have felt as silly as having Anakin build 3PO.

    I love Ben Solo’s “emo” character. A conflicted character has more depth and makes for a more interesting movie.

    I liked that Finn’s mission didn’t succeed. Some people say it was pointless but I disagree. The good guys don’t always win, that doesn’t mean they’d shouldnt try. As kevin Smith says, failure is just successful training.

    I also liked Lukes portrayal. How can anyone claim his actions are out of character when they have no i idea what he’s done for 40 years. People are the product of their experiences and he’s had years to become the man we see.

    I also liked the porgs, they were barely there and made for some good comedy.

    Overall loved it and can’t wait to see it again.

  • @theadmiral0(53)· 3098d

    I get the view that it is for the next generation at the expense of upsetting loyal nerds. I didn't enjoy the film but wish for the day they release a John Wick type of film with jedi/sith, if only... T_T Thanks for the review and I can still hope!!

  • @dber(66)· 3099d

    OK - in respect to your own decision not to reveal spoilers until we're sure it's been seen by everybody, I will do the same in this comment. But I will try to talk about specifics in general terms - ala Penn and Teller's Fool Me - and if you've seen it twice then hopefully it will make sense.

    Things I agree with:

    1. Over constructed plot with some unnecessary additions and loopholes that do nothing for the quality of the overall narrative.
    2. Action sequences - and "character creation/world building" sequences that make no real sense in the context of the story and detract from the quality of the movie overall.

    Specifically, there are certain characters who, though I like them as actors and characters, I just don't think they were given enough (or perhaps the right things) to do during this movie. It's almost as though the writers simply couldn't figure out what to do with these characters.

    This includes the addition of that one particular character all deus ex machina style in the middle, and the whole side quest that these characters go on.

    Question is - why did all that happen -

    Answer = Disney needs dat money.

    These two or three characters I'm talking about, and there side adventure serve a "world building" purpose ostensibly - but the true purpose is transparent creature development for the purpose of toys and side IPs.

    This is the dilemma with Star Wars - and really all new sci-fi IPs since Lucas came up with the payment scheme for the original trilogy. These movies need to create a certain amount of creatures in order to make the most money off of subsequent product placement and toy creation.

    The result is literally 30-40 minutes of this film that exists only for that purpose, with no real basis in any narrative development.

    Now, having seen the film 3 times already, I can tell you there is a good movie in there. A lot of folks were unhappy with some of the central narrative choices - I personally was not - but we will need to discuss that in more detail when you post with spoilers. When you do I may just post what I think might be a "second opinion" style review myself.

    But, regardless of whether you approve of the primary narrative direction, if you simply excise all of the content of the two stray characters, you end up with a much shorter, more concise, and better told story. Plus, and I will need to get the DVD to be sure, I think the film is edited in such a way as to make that deletion super easy!

    In fact, I am currently planning on making my own personal re-edit of the film to do just that - and I think the final product will be worlds more fun.

    Lot's more thoughts on this - looking forward to the full spoiler version.

  • @stacydewet(34)· 3107d

    cant wait to see it. my late dad and I are THE BIGGEST FANS

  • @luke-skywalker(50)· 3109d

    I noticed that you put Empire Strikes Back is your #1, surely that was a typo, right?

  • @peter-parker(63)· 3111d

    I also had mixed feelings about it, but the more I think about it, the better I like the movie. I found the first half of the movie WAY too comedic, which I'm normally okay with, but here it felt overdone. I found the second half to be quite dark actually, so don't know if I would quite categorize this as a kid's movie, it's kind of an in between.

    The most controversial part of the movie I think is this new portrayal of Luke, even though, it didn't bother me that much. We've got to remember that in this movie he's supposed to be an old man who's been through total hell and seen terrible things, a truly damaged man.

    All and all, I get why it's getting so badly criticized by fans, but I really don't think it deserves to be. It's not only a critical success, but taking a second look at it I realized that in some aspects it's actually quite the masterpiece (aside from some plot holes), and I found some moments were quite similar to "I am your father".

    So as a fellow Star Wars fan who grew up watching the movies in the right sequence (IV V VI, I II III), I think we should embrace this movie as a new era of Star Wars for generations to come.

    Thanks for your review.

  • @darthnava(73)· 3111d

    I knew! Ignoring George Lucas' vision would be a disaster!

  • @lamegliogioventu(54)· 3112d

    They (Lucas and Disney) made me a Star Wars hater. I decided to be a "The Empire Strikes Back" fan instead of a "Star Wars" fan. So sad. Pure abuse of Star Wars.

  • @bipul(56)· 3113d

    Love this post . I am big fan of STAR WARS ...

  • @pinelakias(26)· 3114d

    My opinion without any spoilers. The movie had some holes in it. A few of the new characters had a lot of potential, but the director didn't use them like he should. Lukes' character doesn't feel like Luke. If you see a casino scene in the movie, it's about 20-30 minutes break, don't stay for no reason because this entire scene is pretty much a "filler". Rey and Kylo Ren are still negligible. I still don't care about their characters (maybe, I care even less now). Overall, as a movie it was above average. As the new Star Wars movie, it wasn't good. I felt like the director wanted to create a whole new franchise. Newer than this new trilogy. If you feel like these weren't mistakes, I would like to know what you thought of it.

  • @gringalicious(79)· 3114d

    I'm going to see this today. I'll let you know what I thought

  • @tzap90(56)· 3114d

    SPOILER My Opinion / SPOILER

    I have seen the new star wars movie and I have to say I dont like it. Its breaking my heart to say that.
    I was entertained but the more I think over the decisions made in the movie the less I like it ( and I even liked the prequels)

    but I am just a random dude - but wait didnt just disney said you can be a Nobody and still be a Jedi beating kylo /skywalker with almost zero training ----

  • @luja(49)· 3114d

    I loved the movie. A great fan of star wars.

  • @jedau(67)· 3114d

    Luke did warn us that it wasn't going to go the way we think. I'll read your second viewing post first and comment there instead.

  • @praful(56)· 3115d

    I need to watch this. Thanks for sharing :)

  • @tutufaith(48)· 3116d

    I have been watching star wars since when i was a kid. Actually my dad made me watch it and i kinda liked it, when i get married and have kids i would also love them to also watch it. Nice post @hanshotfirst

  • @faisal79(53)· 3116d

    great post.......I liked

  • @samiwhyte(60)· 3116d

    @handshotfirst The movie seem interesting Wish it's available here in Nigeria

  • @mctiller(70)· 3116d

    I'll take a look at your new post.

    I've seen it twice as well.

    I loved it the first time, when I saw it Thursday night.

    After seeing the hate online about it I went and saw it again Friday afternoon.

    And I left thinking, nope I was right. It's a great movie.

  • @arcabuzx(56)· 3116d

    Hi Hi again. as I promised you, here's my star wars review, in English. I hope you enjoy it as much as I do.

    https://steemit.com/star-wars/@arcabuzx/star-wars-review-the-last-jedi-no-spoilers

  • @arcange(79)· 3116d

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  • @blazing(71)· 3116d

    I just came down to the comments as i still haven't watched it yet how was it ??

  • @bleepcoin(65)· 3116d

    'Rogue one' was infinitely better than 'The Force Awakens'..

  • @wildlittlefan(25)· 3116d

    This is a great movie and I have just watched it a few two days ago in the first day it shown in my city. I enjoy it a lot since I don't go to watch movie in the cinema that often. I don't this movie is just for kids even the kids love to watch thing s like this. I think the Star War series are movies that will stir up our emotion when we see some familiar face passed away either in reality or just in the movie. At the same time, some new stars coming up on the screen and it all tells us that " time really goes by fast." Anyway, that's the life cycle that we can't ignore anyway. But since this movie shows up in Christmas time, we just enjoy it altogether and say Merry Christmas to each others then whether we are online or just seeing each other in the cinema.

  • @womby(46)· 3117d

    Gosh It looks great But there are a lot of representatives missing him, unfortunately I wish their return

  • @yummyrum(56)· 3117d

    What a great review! Always like reading them :D

  • @phillip20steem(51)· 3117d

    Always been a Star Wars fan!

  • @janellelanae(51)· 3117d

    Thank you for this spoiler free post, entertaining and encouraging. Going to double dip with the Justice League in a few days, hoping I enjoy this more. I'd have to say the turtle nuns have already won me over though. Being in my 30's and not too critical of the Star Wars franchise I'm interested in how it differs from the originals, Force Awakens, and Rogue One. Resteemed, thanks!

  • @movievigilante(51)· 3117d

    I like Star Wars but I'm not fanatic about it so I will probably not see this until much later.

    I'd rather see Mel Brooks make a sequel to Spaceballs or that somebody make a sequel to that Star Wars ripoff Starcrash with David Hasselhoff.

  • @raeraesteemit(32)· 3117d

    I was also a big fan of star war. But I think the new story is less attractive to me now. Coz I don't want Kylo to kill his dad and mum. That's very horrible. And I can't see the relationship that Rey has with Skywalker's family. I think it'd better to have more driod war scene and lightsaber fight in the flim. That's not enough.

  • @arcabuzx(56)· 3117d

    Hello first let me tell you that I follow all your post about the reviews of the movies, because it really fascinates the way you describe it, I feel that you are my Jedi movie master, so I follow you fervently. Second, what could we expect? is Disney, remember that they are coming to a young audience "millenials", and well that hurts us, because they are making it more for the general public, knowing that star wars is a cult movie... And third, I saw it, tomorrow I do the post of the review but in Spanish and I would like you to see if you like it, obviously I will pass you a translation. and thank you for teaching me how to do movie reviews. May the force be with you.

  • @leonardimperial(31)· 3117d

    I am not a big fan of star wars but i think ill give it a second try.. Haha :-) i mighy be a fan after the second try. Haha

  • @shendai(45)· 3117d

    Outstanding review, and spot on.

    I'm a bit of a cantankerous curmudgeon myself, so yes - this movie had issues a'plenty. Entertaining yes, but you're right - its for another generation.

    As for space battles, to me nothing quite matches the classic battle of Endor. That felt real, in a way nothing that followed did. That initial shot of coming out of hyperspace and having Endor zoom in on-screen as you (the viewer) looks out the cockpit with Lando.... still gets me every time.

  • @hotrod(58)· 3117d

    I am going to see it Monday. Nice review @hanshotfirst.

  • @bluehorseshoe(61)· 3117d

    Great movie analysis, I love your ranking system. I'm very bummed that you ranked it last, now I feel the need to wait until it hits a premium channel in my theater room.

  • @razvanelulmarin(72)· 3117d

    Really enjoyed this :)

  • @the-alien(74)· 3117d

    Haha these are some pretty looking turtles!

  • @alovelymess(61)· 3117d

    My whole family and my husband loves Star Wars! I was never really a fan though. But I'll go watch it in the theater with my husband. My brother @trumpit saw it late last night and he loved it! I'm sure he'll be making a post about it later lol.

  • @quite-mad-hatter(25)· 3117d

    Great post. You present convincing arguments regarding TLJ. You are welcome to check my own (spoiler laden) review.

  • @arkayani(44)· 3117d

    The biggest achievement in my opinion is writing a movie review without giving out spoilers. Well done

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  • @denisechips(56)· 3117d

    O my goodness @hanshotfirst! "My wife and daughter loved these turtle faced things dressed like nuns. The Star Wars fan in me died a little bit just writing that." I am literally laughing out loud. I think my husband @joechiappetta would give you a hug right now if he could. He will be seeing the movie with me and the kids one day soon and I am sure he will think of that line ;)

  • @art-universe(69)· 3117d

    just came out of the cinema and have the feeling something was missing... I don't know. I just hope that the next triology will be the DARTH BANE SAGA 1000 years before.

  • @foxkoit(76)· 3117d

    ok...ok... I feel that this story is dead :)))

  • @sohanur(36)· 3117d

    I've been waiting for this movie for a long time .. in our cinemas it is shown only in 20 numbers, so I thank you for an interesting review, you heated the interest of the people in this film

  • @frank1in(61)· 3117d

    I've been waiting for this movie for a long time .. in our cinemas it is shown only in 20 numbers, so I thank you for an interesting review, you heated the interest of the people in this film)

  • @phelimint(68)· 3117d

    I'm getting pretty old too, but still loved it! I do agree on a few things though, the porgs were unnecessary, they glazed over huge backstory opportunities, and there was one super huge "that is ridiculous"! Looking forward to being able to rant together one the spoiler ban is lifted!

  • @spiritualmax(65)· 3117d

    As a hardcore Star Wars fan who tops the Google keywords for everything related to Sith to a fellow fan, please tell me they didn't make Rey any more OP.

  • @vm2904(70)· 3117d

    @hanshotfirst - **Wow - it has been a while since we visited each others posts. I guess timings do not match due to my revised work schedule. Anyway - Thank you for this great analysis (without spoilers). It is so sad that the Star-wars franchize that we all grew up on is now catering for the new young fans. I feel so cheated and abandoned!
    Upvoted. Regards, @vm2904

  • @whiteexpert(39)· 3117d

    I am big fan of STAR WARS OMG. Love this post soo much. Thank you for sharing

  • @bigdude(56)· 3117d

    Very good! @hanshotfirst

  • @bitton(54)· 3117d

    Does anyone else here didnt watch star wars and doesnt intend to?

  • @goldmatters(75)· 3117d

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  • @justinansako(53)· 3117d

    You know what? I need to watch this movie! It’s so cool the last scene from the previos movie while he standing there in the cliff with his robot arm. I know the next one will be great

  • @sonofthunder(48)· 3117d

    @hanshotfirst

    Because I haven't seen this movie yet, I skimmed very quickly and carefully to avoid spoilers, despite your disclaimer :)

    Thanks for the review, and I'll resteem this because star wars helped shape my childhood as well. I am not a fan of the new movies in the same way, and the last two movies to come out (episode 7and rogue one) were disappointing because It seemed to me to have lost what made star wars great.

    It's my hope the last Jedi will truly be the continuing saga that I remember :) and not just a cool sci fi action movie :)

  • @doctorvee(50)· 3117d

    Nicely written... I'm new going to see all star wars episodes ever made from tonight...

  • @steevc(80)· 3117d

    Sorry to hear it disappointed you. We're seeing it on Sunday. I don't worry too much about inconsistencies as long as I am entertained. I love Star Wars, but I'm not a purist

  • @jfolkmann(63)· 3117d

    I can't wait to see it and take the family. I'm pretty sure i'll love it.

  • @vinmaru(48)· 3117d

    @hanshotfirst

    The Star Wars Saga is a great storyline of good versus evil, the Republic vs the Empire.

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    While the Govt and Central Bank Empire thinks they have control, there is a big powershift happening and they are finally seeing some resistance from a newly formed Rebellion. The tides are turning and Cryptos/Blockchain is gaining Steem... this is the new force in our Universe and we can all join in and fight the Evil Central Bank and Govt Emprie, or sucumb to thier will. The choice is ours and the fate of the Universe lies in our hands.

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  • @moon32walker(72)· 3117d

    It wasn't that bad. I liked it more than Force Awakens. Characters are now more established and there are some cool new comers. Well, story is not finished yet and I think we must see the last one to give the whole disney SW triology a fair review.

  • @acolucky(65)· 3117d

    What?!?! Unfollow, defriend, unvote, flag, revoke, downflag, rescind.... just kidding. Probably, 40 years from now, your kids are going to gripe about Star Wars 15, or whatever, for the same reasons. It is probably healthy. Thanks for the review/heads up. I look forward to watching this.

  • @donkeypong(76)· 3117d

    "It's now time for me to pass Star Wars on to a new generation..." - George Lucas, 2012. These two movies were the transition. The last one was a fan film that strongly resembled A New Hope. This one probably is a view towards what we'll see in the future. If they're going to be making one movie per year, one saga movie every two years, then is it going to be an endless battle between good and evil with Jedis constantly on the run, where every evil spaceship seems to blow up when it's hit in the perfect spot, and each trilogy is a new generation's take on the first three movies? They can't keep covering the same ground repeatedly. It's been fun, but they have to move it forward.

  • @doctorcro(55)· 3117d

    Star Wars is something that we need to pass on our children. I completely agree with you :)

  • @awesome-seven(63)· 3117d

    My son can't stop talking about it!!!.....he's yet to see it. He's a big star wars fan.

  • @muhammadkamal(48)· 3117d

    I love Robot, which is Robot in Star Wars

  • @shencoin(56)· 3117d

    i dont watch this new part of this series hope i watch is soon in next days @hanshotfirst

  • @fernwehninja(68)· 3117d

    I am not a star wars fan but one thing i remember: "May the force be with you" ;-)

    may the force of steemit be with you @hanshotfirst ^_^

  • @wasimk87(64)· 3117d

    This is the good review for"The last jedi"Really awesome@hanshotfirst.I have done resteemed already.