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Have there been more downvotes since the button was relabeled and moved?

This was a question posed to me earlier, and although it's only been a few weeks since the change, I guess it's worth a look.....


On the 2nd May 2019, Steemit Inc relabeled flags as downvotes and changed the icon from a red flag to a downvote button which now sits next to, you guessed it, the upvote button.

As with any change, there are differing opinions but for what it's worth, I agree with this one from both a usability and marketing perspective. Moving the button and making it look like the opposite of the upvote button is logical, and bringing the functionality into the line of sight (away from the naughty corner) may help reduce the stigma around feature, or not.

More or less?

Only 23 days have passed since the change, and so the data might not tell too much, but this is how all downvotes since the first of April look:

Not a really a noticeable change there but May looks lower on average.

What if we remove the top 15 downvoters?

'spaminator','mack-bot','realcleaner','lyndsayblowes','cheetah','camillesteemer','dumb-as-an-ox','trollshunter','shit-posts','scruffyjunkies','iflagtrash','abusereports','steemcleaners','plentyofphish','flags4pedos'

Hmm, downvotes are on a downtrend, but this looks to have been the case since mid-April.


The next two charts relate to the number of accounts doing the downvoting each day, and the number of unique accounts being downvoted each day.

Again, the average is lower for May than April.

Although some interesting spikes here as on a couple of days in the past week or so, over 1000 unique users have received a downvote. I would guess that these votes are scripted following the uncovering of a comment/spam farm or two.


This last piece of data looks at the downvotes as a percentage of the total votes cast during the timeframe used in the above charts.

Time period Percentage of Downvotes
1st April - 24th May 0.00556%
1st April - 1st May 0.00564%
2nd May - 24th May 0.00546%

We need 4 decimal points before any changes can be seen, such is the low number of downvotes compared to the total votes cast on any given day.

And yes, as a percentage, there have been fewer downvotes since the 2nd April.

Need more incentive?

It seems that thus far, relabeling and moving the button has not encouraged more downvoting.

Perhaps what is being discussed on the post linked below will have more of an impact?

https://steemit.com/steem/@vandeberg/downvote-pool-deep-dive

Cheers

Asher

Comments · 23

  • @revisesociology(82)· 2646d

    0.005% Jesus that is low.

    The suggestion of free downvotes now makes a little more sense!

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  • @fitinfun(72)· 2646d

    Interesting how the same bad actor is related to such a huge portion of the down-voting. The current upvoting pattern of those same accounts is also very interesting these days. It seems like we have the same issue here as in the real world (fiat world) - just a few people (one person) making things looks worse than they are.

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  • @howo(76)· 2646d

    Cool stuff ! I'm glad you took the time to present numbers, I wanted to know but wasn't ready to put in the effort :p

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  • @blazing(71)· 2647d

    the flag wars will still continue hahah

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  • @simplymike(69)· 2647d

    Ironically, I reveive my first big dowvote in months on my comment on the post you mention. I knew I had to turn around the moment I saw it was a post about downvoting, but noooh... I was stupid enough to give my opinion.

    You'd think I'd know by now that there are just topics you should stay away from. Good, old censorship makes sure that what people see is people sharing the same opinion - after all, you're punished if you have a different one.

    The blockchain... uncensord and freedom of speech... what a joke :0(

  • @travelersmemoire(58)· 2647d

    Part of the issue is apps like Partiko haven’t implemented a downvote system like SteemIt yet so I’m guessing a non trivial amount of people aren’t even seeing the option.

    Posted using Partiko iOS

  • @crokkon(69)· 2647d

    .

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  • @newageinv(74)· 2647d

    I made my first one ever today! Still feel guilty about it because a comment got downvoted from someone who just posted a picture with a sentence... Maybe not a good reason but I gave it a try!

    Posted using Partiko iOS

  • @svemirac(72)· 2648d

    Even tho I like the downvote presentation, where are the flags represented? As someone with lots of years in science and working with big data files, and representing results - if you are comparing two things you need to show them. In this example, you could overlap flags from Feb and March to overlap with DW from April and May.

    And... I am pretty sure that everyone on steem knew about the flags even before changing the name to downvote - yes, it took me everytime half a minute to find it, but I knew I could find it, if I needed/wanted it to use.

    Cheers

  • @midlet(74)· 2648d

    The vast majority of users will never use them, and their primary use case will still be the same. Bullying and fighting primarily and to a much lesser extent to combat abuse.

    The psychology behind it is different. I'm glad the data is available so I can continue to be proven right.

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  • @abitcoinskeptic(75)· 2648d

    I'm gonna downvote this comment just for the hell of it.

  • @meesterboom(81)· 2648d

    Sweet sexy downvotes just gathering dust. Must change it up!! ;0)

  • @bengy(79)· 2648d

    Shouldn't you be measuring flags per total posts? Rather than an absolute number? That way, if the total number of posts go down, then the total flags go down as well... Due to lower total usage?

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  • @preparedwombat(79)· 2648d

    Anecdotally, I’ve had several fat finger almost accidentally downvoting incidents since the two buttons are right next to each other.

  • @skramatters(67)· 2648d

    I will always call it a flag and I'm too powerless to use them..

    Posted using Partiko Android

  • @gduran(68)· 2648d

    Yesterday I saw a couple of religious posts downvoted by a bot, somebody was taking the time to give them an upvote so they would be visible. So no, I don't think downvotes are of any use, while I have this feeling that there must be a creator somewhere I am definitely not a fan of religion or of reading what other people think about it, but I do think they have all the right to write about what they believe in, downvoting is just taking away their right to do so, and then the person who is upvoting could give that uvote to a more deserving post but doesn't because he thinks the post deserves to be seen even if he wouldn't have voted for it otherwise, have you thought about that? As for the stats of the downvote, what was the activity level, more or less than the previous month? Yes, I know the percentage went slightly down, but if less people are engaging it means that probably most of the people who are posting are people who don't get downvoted.

  • @tarazkp(86)· 2648d

    I will get to this later, but I think the renaming and positioning wasn't to encourage more downvotes but rather to normalize the convention. I think the suggestion for discounted downvotes is what is needed for an increase.

    Thanks for the analysis.

  • @bluerobo(70)· 2648d

    So, why are we having that downvote pool discussion again?

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