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About Steem and Voice

Wolf@therealwolf (77)2642d

It looks like the myth about MEOS being the new social media of EOS was just that a myth. However, @dan does seem to have stayed true to his word and created his version of Steem on EOS: Voice.

Now, if this is going to rival Steem(it) I can't say, we'll have to see. But it will put some (stronger) pressure on Steem for sure. Which is a good thing IMO, because pressure might just be what Steem needs right now to find it's USP.

You might think right now: "Wait, what? USP? Steem is nearly 4 years old. Shouldn't it have a USP already?"

The answers to that is: yes and no. It does have a USP, which however isn't at all leveraged to its full potential.

And that's where I had some thoughts recently (especially after I watched the keynote):

Voice (as far as I can tell) is trying to emulate Twitter with some kind of basic income, KYC, curation and other fancy stuff - a smart move to reach a wide audience.

However, as you might know, Twitter isn't really known for having great communities. You might see some new stuff, when a person you're following is liking or sharing something or when you're searching for a tag (which is similarly how Steem(it) currently works), but that's it. There are no real communities.

So, I personally have no problems with Voice becoming the decentralised twitter - that's absolutely fine with me. Because that means, that the position of decentralised Reddit is still available... And that's where Steem fits perfectly.

Steem - the decentralized hub for communities

That's Steem's USP, which could secure the future for Steem, as it would reach a huge target audience, without going in competition with Voice. Because let's be honest: I'm still truly rooting for Steem, but money rules the world. And block.one has clearly much more of that right now than Steemit Inc or even Steem.

Oh, and it would also be a good idea to implement some kind of WebAuthn standard into Steem.

Alright, that's it for now. Don't let the FUD get you, let us rather use this situation to learn from it and use it as fuel to kickstart some changes! (seriously!)

Wolf

Comments · 36

  • @swirly(56)· 2638d

    What is USP?

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  • @sgt-dan(66)· 2639d

    This is probably the most insightful and constructive of posts I have read concerning the EOSIO DAPP VOICETM. I once told @ned, responding to a comment he made in a post, that competition is good and would help STEEMIT.COM work towards providing the best platform for its users.

    My thoughts on the entire identity verification process being imposed upon those wishing to join the new EOSIO VOICE social media platform can be summed up here by our friend Dr. Lector...

    This view is based upon a couple of STEEM posts I have read so far, but I do need to research a bit more before I come to a more informed position.

    I do admit that I have some EOS in my portfolio, but diversification is my strategy when it comes to investments. I am now, and will forever be, a STEEM stakeholder and STEEM community member.

    You are right on the money @therealwolf with your conclusions. Appreciate your contributions here on STEEM. I would be curious to hear @fyrstikken and other large STEEM stakeholders' views on this most recent of EOSIO DAPP rollouts.

  • @dirtbike(55)· 2640d

    Voice is a steeming pile of shit! I wouldn't touch that centralized ponzi scheme with a 10 ft pole and ackza tied to the end of it!

  • @arcange(79)· 2640d

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  • @ervin-lemark(76)· 2640d

    About the Voice as a name... It's already taken. In Russian 😀

    Golos.io 👍😁😂

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  • @klye(75)· 2640d

    I think they have a social network type thing on EOS called Trybe.one ?

  • @sweetsnax(41)· 2640d

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  • @chireerocks(75)· 2640d

    @therealwolf, If we look towards the aspect of KYC then in my opinion i think that VOICE will not stay as Decentralised.

    But let's see because we never know which platform brings what innovation. But i strongly believe that Rivals always help us to stay one step ahead when it comes to innovation.

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  • @steemitboard(66)· 2641d

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  • @rudyardcatling(65)· 2641d

    mister wolfe @therealwolf ... its very early but i wonder what your opinion was on the HF21 new "systems" , relating to stuff like smartsteem delegators for instance :) , its way too early to understand impact over the whole system but maybe you have an opinion on the matter, i'm sure you're more schooled and versed as its pretty close to you there :)

    just after reading on one of my other fav witnesses :

    https://steemit.com/hf21/@timcliff/hardfork-21-steem-proposal-system-sps-economic-improvement-proposal-eip

    https://steemit.com/hf21/@rudyardcatling/pshwki

    sorry to go offtopic here but i just have to ask :p no rush ofcourse

    if i were to just scan it all my first reaction would be : my steempower is gonna halve in both worth and effect but instead i'd like to ask around first hahah, at your leisure ofcourse

    Alright, that's it for now. Don't let the FUD get you, let us rather use this situation to learn from it and use it as fuel to kickstart some changes! (seriously!)

    Wolf

    did you want #fud with that :p heh lol, if you consider the advent of quantum computing, the computing power isn't much of a threat to classic systems, even if you get a million combos per second, you can't enter them, and most systems lock out after a few failed attempts, especially financial However, if you apply that to a public blockchain where you have no way of preventing "decrypting"/login attempts and not even a log in the chain to see what wallet got accessed unless you get a transaction. Now *that* is reason for panic, but don't tell anyone - BTC just went gud, sadly i have none left since mtGox

    Barring Vitalsky apologizing to "the original cypherpunks" i don't see much happening to fix that potential issue so whoever comes up with the solution might be in for the digits heh

    El Gato out ... wink

  • @solarwarrior(67)· 2641d

    just a copy paste from another post's reply: its a bit like microsoft / linux for EOS it makes a lot sense to implement KYC and to become a real commercial power blockchain.. that's their way and it will be a successful one... but KYC will repel many users and USE CASES.. so if EOS voice becomes successful it will drag steem in its slipstream up... .. and yes we have to find a way to facilitate commercial transactions on steem and it will be somehow more difficult because of missing KYC.. but we also have a strong open source community that creates amazing technology.. .. and in regards to BOTs... yes this is the evil of steem.. but if everyone here would be on the same page we could abolish them pretty quick.. with or without KYC...

  • @steem-plus(74)· 2641d

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  • @freddio(60)· 2641d

    Steem looks for me way better.

  • @blog-beginner(57)· 2641d

    EOS already at $8 and the 5th largest coin on CMC. Steem struggling to stay even in the top 50. Does it miss a good exchange listing. Or what else is missing ?

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  • @mrgreen(64)· 2641d

    How on earth they can achieve wide mass adoption with things like KYC?

  • @lauch3d(66)· 2641d

    It´s not a KYC like registering at a central authority, its a multistep KYC where it is not about who you are, but about knowing that you are one unique person.

    The is what the whole thing is about. lel. And your right Steem should better do its home-work

  • @greencross(70)· 2641d

    What would be good to implement here is vote decay for witnesses and proxies.

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  • @stackin(78)· 2641d

    Looks good to me, I have no problem using them also 😬

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  • @organduo(73)· 2641d

    Until EOS fixes distribution problem I'm not worried.

  • @preparedwombat(79)· 2641d

    ...the position of decentralised Reddit is still available... And that's where Steem fits perfectly.

    I’ve often wondered why, when even the name Steemit was originally a riff on Reddit, the #til tag has never really caught on here, given how popular it is on Reddit.

  • @misslasvegas(74)· 2641d

    I watched their announcements and to be honest, I was a bit disappointed. I would have expected more from Dan and EOS. And like you said: some competition is not bad. We'll have to step up our game and that's good. When Dan mentioned there will be no space for trolls on VOICE it made me laugh. How will they implement this? Who gets to decide who is a troll? And how is that decentralized? Fact is: there will always be trolls everywhere online. There's no getting around it. And fighting against trolls will need a centralized approach. I am very interested to see how they will do that.

  • @foxkoit(76)· 2641d

    I was think they have there own COIN hmmmm .... but no .

  • @guruvaj(67)· 2642d

    There is no competition yet, Voice will start from scratch, and steem is way ahead of competition. My concern for now is, when will HF21 gonna happen @therealwolf ?

  • @whack.science(73)· 2642d

    Keep calm And SPUD 2 on!

    :)

  • @geekgirl(80)· 2642d

    I like the name they chose. Voice sounds much better than Meos. I agree I don't it will be direct competition. At the same time competition is healthy. I think Voice and Steem can benefit from each other.

  • @nonameslefttouse(77)· 2642d

    So the "competition" to this place wants to emulate something that already exists? GOOD! We win already. This place already learned that lesson the hard way. We can't emulate, we must innovate. They can have their primitive text messenger/link sharing platform. We can embrace the multi billion dollar entertainment industry and be the source of the links those folks share, by producing the content. Hopefully, someday, this place will actually allow the content to thrive. The actual content. Not the crap you vote sellers promote to the front page. The stuff that drives us actual content producers away, along with the potential billions we can generate, not that stuff. Maybe someday some people will see the true value in content and stop promoting rubbish. I'm thinking now those proposed changes are perfect timing.

    P.S. This place emulating Reddit is incredibly small thinking, and that's all been done before.

    *edit: Thanks for the downvote, Wolfie. You huffed and you puffed and you blew my house down. You can still have my upvote. It's okay.

  • @edicted(83)· 2642d

    It was obvious they were going to do KYC, which is the exact opposite spirit of the decentralized movement. This puts a cap on the entire platform, as at some point it's going to be financially viable to use tactics of identity theft or straight up creating people that don't exist.

  • @cmplxty(78)· 2642d

    I was annoyed by the name, it’s bland and lame and is trying to play on the recognition of the TV show IMO. Steem is unique and interesting.

    I like your analogy; we are the decentralized Reddit for sure. We have the excellent communities that are going strong here and getting bigger by the week. This platform does have things that need to improve however this whole notion of Steem killer is both silly and flattering.

    It’s silly because in an environment such as the internet and social media, focusing on your rival and trying to take them down keeps you short sighted and you end up missing the big picture I think. It’s also flattering that a coin with so much money behind it is trying that hard to attack a community like ours. It’s great publicity, getting people to see what the rival chain is if they happen upon his claims to take us down.

    I feel pretty good about the future of Steem today, I was underwhelmed with the news. We only have so much time in a day to do things, let’s focus on the future of blockchain instead of rivalry’s.

  • @cryptopie(78)· 2642d

    I thought they will going to launch some social media platform like steemit and earn eos tokens. Voice token is just a nothing, an air.

  • @oldtimer(76)· 2642d

    I'm stupid, sorry. What's USP?

  • @sepracore(64)· 2642d

    This is a great time for the price of Steem. With this announcement out of the way and the price of Steem right around the 200 day moving average I am hopeful we can start riding this crypto bull a little.

  • @marcusantoniu26(68)· 2642d

    I think there may be many blockchains offering their social media. However, here are only 24 hours in a day and a human being can only participate so much in social media. The different blockchains will have to compete as @therealwolf says.

  • @sergiomendes(77)· 2642d

    I have just uploaded my video and I spoke about it in the end. In all honesty it doesn't look bad at all to me... More than emulate twitter I feel they trying to emulate Tumblr. Offering all the different type of formats from short to long in the same platform.

    The disappointing part was all the hype and it is not ready for users... Next time they shouldn't hype so much of they don't have actually something that people can get in and test.

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  • @cflclosers(72)· 2642d

    I havent looked into voice yet but I like how it sounds. I'm glad you mentioned reddit because since I joined steem 2 years ago that's how I felt steem should be. I'm not one that believes steem should emulate Medium and it's long form "quality" content. I want to look into voice more but at this time I am 100% invested in steem

  • @onthewayout(62)· 2642d

    I am not impressed by the anouncement, let's see how Block One implements their social media app.

  • @chesatochi(73)· 2642d

    I need to check that tomorrow, the version of voice is functional as we speak?

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