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Support Steem.DAO: Return Proposal

Steem.DAO is set as 100% beneficiary of this post. It means that all author rewards (if any) will go to @steem.dao account at the payout time. In other words, your votes for this post is an additional support for Steem.DAO a.k.a. Steem Proposal System. Then, Steem.DAO will continuously support projects voted by the community.

But what if you are undecided which of the proposals should get Steem.DAO funding or what if you think that none of them are currently good enough?

Return Proposal

This post is also a description for my upcoming Steem.DAO proposal which is a Return Proposal. The aim of Return Proposal is to prevent proposals with little to no approval from receiving funding. Think of it like:

I think that any proposal, that has less approval than Return Proposal I vote for, shouldn’t receive funding from Steem.DAO.

Bonus: New fancy promo video by @gtg

ELI5 (Explain Like I'm Five)

  • Hi, I’m @steem.dao. In the next hour I’ll have 1000 SBD to fund projects and make Steem even greater again.
  • Hi, I’m @alice. My proposal Improve steem documentation is the most voted proposal, send 20 SBD to @alice.
  • Hi, I’m @bob. My proposal Steem commercial on CNN is a second most voted proposal, send 300 SBD to @cnn.commercial.
  • Hi, I’m @a.hole. My proposal blah is the fourth most voted proposal, send 10000 SBD or what’s left to @a.hole.
  • Hi, I’m @gtg. My proposal Return Proposal is the third most voted proposal, send 1000000 SBD or what’s left back to @steem.dao.

In the next hour @steem.dao sends:

  • 20 SBD to @alice
  • 300 SBD to @cnn.commercial
  • 680 SBD back to self.

HF21 Early days

In the early days, just after the new rules of HardFork 21 are set in place, and before people get used to new features, it is important to keep potential bad actors from receiving funding from Steem.DAO. Please vote for my Return Proposal as soon as you can, and then, when the dust settles, do your own research and adjust your proposal votes accordingly.

Steem Proposal System release notes (source: GitHub)

The Steem Proposal System (SPS) is an on chain Decentralized Autonomous Organization (DAO) that allows users to submit proposals for funding and vote on which proposals should be funded. The SPS is funded by means of inflation and donations. SBD (and only SBD) can be sent to the account @steem.dao. Additionally anyone can make donations by setting the account as a comment reward beneficiary.

Warning: There is no mechanism for refund from the @steem.dao. Non SBD transfers will be rejected, but any SBD donated cannot be refunded.

The inflation budget has been changed to fund the SPS. The content rewards are being reduced from 75% of the budget to 65% to give 10% of the inflation budget to the SPS. The actual inflation schedule has not changed at all. The inflation schedule continues as planned. As of block 34 million, inflation was at 8.42% and will continue to narrow 0.01% every 250k blocks until it reaches a rate of 0.95%

One one-hundredth of the balance of the @steem.dao account will be paid out every day in one hour intervals in order of approval. It is strongly recommended that the community creates and maintains refund proposal(s) to prevent proposals with little to no approval from receiving funding.

There are three new operations for interacting with the SPS.

struct create_proposal_operation : public base_operation
{
   account_name_type creator;
   account_name_type receiver;

   time_point_sec start_date;
   time_point_sec end_date;

   asset daily_pay;

   string subject;
   string permlink;

};

``` struct update_proposal_votes_operation : public base_operation { account_name_type voter;

flat_set_ex< int64_t > proposal_ids;

bool approve = false; };

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struct remove_proposal_operation : public base_operation { account_name_type proposal_owner;

flat_set_ex< int64_t > proposal_ids; };


When a proposal is created, a post must be specified that is linked to the proposal. It will be `@creator/permlink`. All proposal creators should use that post to keep their proposal up to date so that stake-holders can easily review and approve the proposal. There is a 10 SBD fee that must be paid in order to create a proposal. The fee is paid in to the SPS. A proposal can, at most, receive `daily_pay` per day, but if the proposal is not paid for a round either from losing approval votes or the budget not being able to cover the proposals costs, the lost pay will not be made up. Proposals are not owed anything by the blockchain until they are actually paid.

Proposal IDs are generated by the blockchain and are a global unique identifier of the proposal. The ID is returned with the proposal on all SPS API calls. Because the proposal ID is generated by the blockchain, it is strongly encouraged to use the transaction status API to wait for the transaction creating the proposal to become irreversible before approving it or else the proposal ID may change and the approval will be for the wrong proposal.

The following API calls have been added to support accessing proposal information. `database_api.list_proposals`, `database_api.find_proposals`, `database_api.list_proposal_votes`.

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Comments · 32

  • @poshbot(59)· 2094d
  • @jskitty(51)· 2288d

    The current return proposal seems very high, blocking out many useful proposals that many people have voted for, including Hive Keychain (At the time of writing).

    Perhaps there should be a cap on this? It doesn't feel right that many highly voted-for proposals are being rejected completely, due to not meeting the return proposal which right now requires over $6 million before a proposal is even considered for funding.

  • @steemitboard(66)· 2535d

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  • @apshamilton(73)· 2557d

    I think there are some bugs regarding proposal voting related to the Return Proposal. See this post for details. https://steempeak.com/witness/@apshamilton/there-seem-to-be-bugs-in-sps-proposal-voting

  • @twigg(63)· 2557d

    117$ need to borrow a spellchecker mate???

    here is the 0c post you removed without comment

    https://steemit.com/conspiracy/@daznez/earth-is-flat-but-not-like-that-stupid-circle-model-which-everyone-knows-is-bollocks#@twigg/pwylcw

    320000sp

    well used...

  • @twigg(63)· 2557d

    and now you take away my moms @buildawhale for a post and downvote her post @steeminfobot....fucking pathetic act....I gotta explain??? go to her blog...tell her why you downvoted her 30$$$??? you emailed her...she told you its her content....wheres the responce "witnesses????"Screenshot_20190829-074810_Chrome.jpg

  • @twigg(63)· 2557d

    lol..so you dissagree with somone getting 0c and remove there content...fucking helm mate...how does google work when your here???

    @gtg is just more censoring trash....downvotes flatearth posts because?? lol steems for fuckheads

    ps. you came downvoted my deleted post...i was refering to the myriad of posts removed because of your view of the political conntent...lol...whatever....well done mate.....

  • @twigg(63)· 2558d

    @gtg is just more censoring trash....downvotes flatearth posts because?? lol steems for fuckheads

  • @ats-david(75)· 2558d

    First proposal...

    Burn all of the SBD allocated to the SPS for the first 90 days.

    Second proposal...

    Recreate first proposal for the next 90 days.

    And repeat indefinitely.

  • @ash(74)· 2558d

    In BitShares we use the same mechanics to prevent this. good idea!

  • @chireerocks(75)· 2558d

    @gtg, Steem Proposal System will going to open the doors for many opportunities for great ideas.

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  • @eonwarped(70)· 2559d

    Hot sign link for voting the proposal: https://beta.steemconnect.com/sign/update-proposal-votes?proposal_ids=%5B%220%22%5D

    Thanks @asgarth for the pointer there. Figured I share it here too.

  • @pennsif(77)· 2559d

    This post has been included in the latest edition of The Steem News - a compilation of the key news stories on the Steem blockchain.

  • @studbanna(37)· 2559d

    Steem

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  • @jarvie(75)· 2560d

    If people have further questions about the Steem Proposals I made an FAQ we're looking to add to SteemPeak.com https://steempeak.com/hf21/@jarvie/proposals

  • @steemitboard(66)· 2560d

    Congratulations @gtg! You have completed the following achievement on the Steem blockchain and have been rewarded with new badge(s) :

    You distributed more than 19000 upvotes. Your next target is to reach 20000 upvotes.

    You can view your badges on your Steem Board and compare to others on the Steem Ranking If you no longer want to receive notifications, reply to this comment with the word STOP

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  • @smooth(74)· 2560d

    I think it is going to be important for large stakeholders to be able to make a partial weighted vote (via a code enhancement/future fork). Currently the only way to vote proposals up and down is with the boolean approve. But this means that when a large stakeholder changes a vote it may have unintended consequences (for example moving a refund proposal above other higher "good" proposals in addition to the one intended to be cut off), or alternately not vote. Splitting stake allows for more granularity, but splitting stake should not be needed and it is generally unintended that splitting conveys an advantage.

  • @lifeaef(54)· 2560d

    Sounds complicated for now .. would it be like witnesses voting system? No window, no elections, vote when you wish as you wish

  • @smooth(74)· 2560d

    Warning: There is no mechanism for refund from the @steem.dao. Non SBD transfers will be rejected, but any SBD donated cannot be refunded.

    The mechanism is make a proposal and appeal to stakeholders to fund your proposal for returning it (in case of serious errors). They may or may not do so, there are no guarantees.

  • @ew-and-patterns(71)· 2560d

    So if return proposal is the highest voted, it means none of the current proposals will be funded? How long will proposals stay active, to have enough time to gather the votes necessary? Only 7 days?

  • @freebornangel(72)· 2560d

    Burn and return proposals should be permanent? None of the above shouldn't be handicapped by someone having to take the time and pay the 10sbd?

  • @graylan(56)· 2560d

    I love to see this kind of development being done inside our ecosystem. Thank you for pushing innovation in our space forward.

  • @luegenbaron(65)· 2560d

    A bot to autovote on ur return proposal would be very helpful! :)

  • @preparedwombat(79)· 2560d

    It means that all author rewards (if any) will go to @steem.dao account at the payout time.

    So who has the private keys for that account?

  • @karisatti(33)· 2560d

    Nice post 👌 man

  • @soyrosa(75)· 2560d

    How big are these proposal windows going to be - do you know?

    Thanks for taking initiative against possible bad actors on our DAO!

  • @themanwithnoname(65)· 2560d

    Hi, I’m @alice. My proposal Improve steem documentation is the most voted proposal, send 20 SBD to @alice.

    How is "most voted" determined? Is it by number of votes or is it stake-weighted?

  • @manishmike10(64)· 2560d

    I mean, I like the proposal system. I might try to make one proposal if I know how to do it. I'll learn watching.

  • @luegenbaron(65)· 2560d

    Love it! We really need that! Thanks :) Jan ape.gif

  • @felander(73)· 2560d

    Ok, this clarifies a lot for me on the inner workings. Is the actual voting for proposals something very technical? Or is there a usable user interface provided?

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  • @apshamilton(73)· 2560d

    Is Steemit going to add the ability to create SPS proposals to their front end from day one? Or will it be weeks before any non-techie can create a proposal?

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  • @abh12345(80)· 2560d

    This sounds rather essential. Is there a similar setup on Bitshares?