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Who Writes Hive's Strategy?

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I've been thinking about this for a while and want to put it out there. Not as a finished proposal, more as me thinking out loud.

What if we pointed Hive in one direction?

Hive has more going for it than most chains. What we've never done is point all of that in one direction at the same time.

Every project on Hive pursues its own goals, and every stakeholder funds what they think is best. What if for six months, we all backed one clear strategy with a named goal: the funding, the builders and the stake behind the same thing, measured the whole way.

Maybe it works, and we find out what Hive can do when it moves together. Maybe it doesn't, and we've lost six months of something we can easily undo. Either way, we'd learn more than we have from years of doing what we are doing now.

So how would we actually do it? The first question is who can set a direction at all.

Hive isn't leaderless, its leaders are dormant

Witness elections and DHF outcomes are decided by stake, and stake is concentrated in a small number of accounts. That authority is real. It's just used only to react, never to lead.

When I post an idea, I'm one account. It gets read and forgotten. I'd need a thousand accounts my size to move anything. Those accounts don't exist. When a few large accounts back something, everyone notices, because on Hive everyone watches stake, not arguments.

What's missing is one signal

The obvious answer is "whales should just say what they want." It doesn't work even in the slightest. 20 whales each posting their vision for Hive is noise: 20 directions, no clarity, no commitment, nothing a builder can plan around. And generally people dont even do that. They just click vote on proposals or on return proposal. What's missing isn't opinions. It's one direction with stake committed behind it.

The council idea

My first thought was an elected council. Five people, voted in by stakeholders for six-month terms. They publish a program and a scorecard, decide DHF votes, get an operational budget, and set a strategy. If they fail the scorecard, stakeholders elect someone else.

There's precedent: with witnesses, stake already elects a small group to run something important. Witnesses run the chain. A council would direct funding and strategy.

The case for it is coordination. Today every funding decision waits for dozens of large holders to each notice a proposal and decide alone, with nobody able to commit in advance. Demand signals non-existant. Five people with a mandate can say:

"We will fund this, if you deliver that."

The objections are obvious. "This is Steemit Inc. again." Steemit Inc. held its stake permanently, answered to no one, and couldn't be voted out. A council would be elected, term-limited, measured against published targets, and gone in six months if it failed.

"I know better than five people."

Maybe some of you do. Can you say that of everyone? And how has everyone deciding alone worked out for us? Power is concentrated today, while responsibility is nobody's. When nothing moves, nobody is accountable, because nobody committed to anything.

Where the council stalls: power

Without real power, any such body is worthless. We might as well call it the Hive UN.

Real power would mean stakeholders proxying to the council. But a proxy on Hive has major security issues, and five people can be phished, bribed or pressured. Doing it safely would take a hardfork, a DHF-only proxy that leaves witness votes alone. That's never going to happen. :)

A council that only recommends has the opposite problem. Without committed stake, it's a glorified blog post.

Either way, it comes down to the same thing: stake has to commit to one direction. So whats reasonable is the smallest version of that.

A strategy proposal

One named strategy, as a slate. Not a vision statement: specific proposals, teams, amounts and milestones. For example: one goal (retained new users from outside Hive, measured on-chain monthly), one front door for newcomers, one target audience to market to, and milestone-based funding instead of mind numbing decade long maintenance proposals.

Endorsement with one click. Voting for it means committing to vote for the named proposals this term and the specific efforts named. NOT VISION, actual efforts. The total stake support becomes a public signal:

"this direction is backed by N million HP."

Builders now know what's fundable, what we collectively want to achieve, and which direction stake chose to back TOGETHER.

Renewal every six months, against a scorecard.

Why?

Because having no strategy and direction is also a direction. When nobody sets a direction, Hive defaults to the direction it already had that was set by those other guys.... You know, STINC.... That's the direction we're drifting in right now, whether anyone chose it or not.

What if, for six months, we chose?

What if we decided where we are going and how we are going to get there?


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Comments · 10

  • @beggars(71)· 1h

    The biggest problem is we keep funding the same people and projects and getting the same outcomes. Nobody feels compelled to be transparent or even try to find a path to profitability.

    Look at Keychain. Their early proposals asked for 200 HBD a day to cover the extension and a mobile app. Then 300. Then around 600. Now 540. Funding has nearly tripled while the price of HIVE went into the toilet. Most people use it to log in and sign transactions. To justify that kind of money, they keep throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks, like the EVM stuff.

    Their current proposal runs until May 2027. That's over $100k still to go. For what?

    And what about keychain working on EVM stuff, Magi working on EVM stuff, possibly a few others. Has anyone done the numbers to see if this was worth pursuing? What's the desired outcome? Get Ethereum users here, and then what? There isn't much for them to spend their crypto on here. It ends up being an easier offramp than an onramp.

    I do agree there needs to be a strategy, as long as we don't fall into the same trap we have the past few years, even going back into the Steem days. Many of us have been building without asking for handouts, because we legitimately care and put the effort into Hive. Sadly, you've got projects like Keychain which should be getting a fraction of what they're currently getting.

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  • @ura-soul(78)· 11d

    I created @strategizer to assist with this, but received little or no assistance from key decision makers - in fact, they literally ignored me.

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  • @engrave(74)· 14d

    While I do agree that we are inefficient because of the decentralized nature, and we miss leaders who could put us on the right track, I also find it strange to propose a way to "decide DHF votes" by a small group of people. The entire idea of stake-weighted voting is to give stakeholders the ability to vote, isn't it? :D

    Don't get me wrong - I really appreciate the effort to fix what's broken. But in my opinion, this idea fixes nothing. We already had a valueplan which could be considered a test run for that idea. They decided by themselves what to do with the funds. It caused a lot of discord among the community (we all remember the rally car and the emotions it stirred up within the community), but in practice the community could easily out-vote the funding from the DHF. It didn't happen for a long time, and the same would happen with the council IMO.

    We've seen numerous proposals that never delivered anything and still got perpetual funding. Not really sure if this is because stakeholders don't care, or they think we need devs/something funded apart from their deliverables, or they're simply incapable of assessing the progress/usefulness of some ideas. But that's the case, and the same people would vote on the council.

    The lack of accountability is, in my opinion, the biggest issue her, and I don't really know how to solve it. Even though we introduce things like the proposed council, we won't be able to enforce it. Worst-case scenario for them is that they will lose the votes. And being in such a council brings no benefits so not really sure if that would matter to anyone (of course, the benefit would be to have a strong influence on the future of our change, but hard to imagine it's enough).

  • @deanliu(83)· 15d

    I agree 99% of what you said. (Just don't wanna say 100%😂) I hope whales witnesses can say more about their thoughts. Saying I have no idea is much better than not saying anything.

  • @uniquey(55)· 15d

    A network that is decentralized means strategy is not etched into paper, it is written in form of code, proposals and publicity from those willing to do the hard work. This is the moment when the builders take full ownership without waiting for the permission slip and when progress is made on chain.

  • @epic-fail(70)· 16d

    Bottom line, we need the fastest Rally Car, plain and simple! If all the Whales focused on this we'd be all set. I'm sure every Whale wants to win races, right?

    I'm willing to work as part of the pit crew and can change a tire really fast.

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  • @steevc(81)· 16d

    Don't we already vote up the witnesses to do what they think is best? We may just need them to work more together and some of them do talk. Usually there are a few at Hivefest, but it looks like less people were there this time. That said, I do think we need more of the people with the power working out where we are going. We seem to be drifting a bit. I know some core development goes on and some projects promise attractive features, but the world still doesn't know about Hive. I'm no marketing guy, but I think we should be able to do better generally.

  • @wiseagent(82)· 16d

    The reach of a project like Hive is truly immeasurable, given that even we do not know where we might end up, @lordbutterfly.

    On the other hand, it's worth considering a more focused direction, so that ideas can branch out more solidly in the (not-too-distant) future. This does not mean ceasing to explore other paths, but rather establishing priorities to follow.

    Sometimes I feel there is always a lot going on, yet few ideas are being properly explored within the overall context. In the meantime, many good ideas may be accidentally overlooked or even lost.

    Just saying.