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Reminder about snaps and dust threshold

I keep noticing many fail at the dust threshold or are completely unaware, since it mostly affects smaller accounts I figured I'd make a mention of it to help them grow on hive.

I've also noticed that a lot of people seem to be completely unaware of shortform content on Hive, for instance @peakd's snaps or @ecency's waves, a bit weird considering they're very active posting and interacting with comments but seem to be completely missing from shortform. Maybe they just don't know, so if that's the case it'd be nice to see more familiar faces there: https://peakd.com/snaps/snaps/following

About the dust threshold, and there seemed to be some confusion regarding it last time I talked to someone about it, so I've double-checked and wanted to make things clear.

Curation rewards are not dust-thresholded, that means, if you vote on a post or comment, as long as that post or comment gets past the threshold ($0.02 - it fluctuates depending on price and currently it's probably the highest its ever been in terms of voting power) you will receive curation rewards even if just 0.001.

Thus the important thing is that a post or comment gets to $0.02, then everyone who's voted for it get a payout, even if the minimum 0.001 curation rewards.

However, if you vote for posts or comments which are usually the likely suspects, that don't make it to $0.02, you're basically just wasting voting power.

Now I'm not saying don't vote, a vote is often used as a form of acknowledgement that you've read a reply, etc, or agreement, etc, but if you suspect the odds that someone else will vote it after you, maybe give it a small vote in terms of vote strength. Like 1%, etc. The vote will still register and land on the comment, but if it doesn't pay out then you're not risking burning more voting mana when you can use the voting mana on posts or comments already past the threshold.

I still see a lot of people voting on comments where let's say they give them a 50-100% vote and it lands at $0.005 or $0.01 and no one else votes on it after pushing it through the threshold. At these prices that means some votes can forfeit up to 0.4 hive approximately and still not get paid out due to the threshold, which you know, if your plan here is to grow, that's 0.04 hive after 1 year by just curating and holding hp if you do it efficiently.

This is also a reason why we created commentrewarder, so authors don't have to waste too much voting power on comments but can instead forfeit a % of their posts' rewards by directing it with tiny votes that don't burn much voting power.

I understand this is a bit nitpicky and most may not care or understand, but for those who do maybe they'll appreciate being reminded about this as it may help them grow their stake.

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Comments · 17

  • It's useful information whether or not its nitpicky. I wasn't even sure if snaps paid curation rewards.

    BTW I had two things to ask/suggest about Scrobble

    1 It would be really nice to have a feed on our profile of comments/short takes/snaps we've posted through scrobble. I'd like to redirect people to my profile as a way to give music recommendations that are constantly changing based on what I've shared this week.

    2 I really wanted to promote my new single through scrobble/snaps like the live album but I haven't been able to generate a seperate scrobble page for it, the live version keeps popping up whenever I listen to the studio version on spotify or youtube. Do you have any solution? It's these two:

  • @ijebest(69)· 14d

    Wow ooo, what a reminder this is, we are seriously learning everyday in Hive, thank you for redirecting our minds to this wonderful way out.

  • @suisver(72)· 14d

    Wow, I had no idea about this. I'll look into it thoroughly. Thanks for the information.

  • @mortezayousefi(68)· 15d

    Does the dust threshold change a lot when the HIVE price moves up or down ?

  • @cositav(73)· 15d

    This information is important to highlight; I completely understand what you mean. I had some doubts, but now they're resolved. Excellent, thank you.

  • @dominic1(65)· 15d

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  • @behiver(77)· 15d

    Great information and whenever I upvote on snaps (even if I chose which one to curate) and their comments, I use an upvote value of at least $0.02.

  • @ikigaidesign(76)· 15d

    There are many that we still don't know about Hive. I've been at it for almost 5 years, and I keep learning. Imagine for those who are just starting—it's a process, but like everything, it's a matter of trying things out.

  • @artofkylin(66)· 15d

    this is why I sometimes tip instead of upvote since it shows appreciation and I don't need to worry about the dust threshold since my full power vote is only worth about .004.

  • @nattosenpai(75)· 15d

    Interesting information about dust threshold. Since I started on Hive more than two years ago, I haven't given this much importance, but it's thanks to the great support I've always had from the beginning in my posts. Also, since I really enjoy writing, the idea of short content never seemed appealing to me.

    However, this year I decided to dedicate time to short content as well. In the first few months you can see how active I was and how I used Snaps as a sort of X/Twitter to promote my content, but this time within the same Hive. But I admit that my activity lately hasn't been the same as before with Snaps, at least in terms of voting and interacting, since now I dedicate more time to writing and I also see that Snaps are somewhat flooded with SPAM.

    When I go to my feed, what I mostly see are screenshots or automatic Snaps of game results and things like that. I'm no one to criticize, but in my case, at least, I try to make every Snap I share as original and authentic as possible. Nothing copied and pasted, nothing repeated. I believe that both short and long content require dedicated time and effort to ensure it is done well.

    And well, thanks to that I've even done well in Snaps. CommentRewarder has done a great job rewarding genuine interaction as well, well done there.

  • @dayibloock(48)· 15d

    Such an important reminder! Smaller accounts often overlook this detail and it really affects them. Thanks for taking the time to explain and shed light on it."

  • I could perhaps try making a short version of my post there from time to time. Thanks for reminding! 😀

  • @hscr-isrc(51)· 15d

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  • @slothlydoesit(68)· 15d

    I often forget about the dust threshold; I guess I need to be a little more picky with my votes. Often spen a load of tiny vote on shortform, espeically at Sloth Hangs as we're trying to get that upto speed and off the ground...If only there were some whales who could vote the daily thread from @slothbuzz.hangs to help commentrewarder spread even more love to users using Hangs!

  • @latinowinner(58)· 15d

    Good point

  • @stayoutoftherz(80)· 15d

    Important topic, maybe you could have mentioned the @dustsweeper service. You send an amount of Hive over to this account and it uses that Hive to bring your comments/posts over the dust treshold by upvoting them.

  • @cagolistic(67)· 15d

    Thank you for this post. It is a great reminder. I have been learning this strategies and honestly when we stop learning, we miss the goal and remains dormant even when we think we are doing the right thing. I deeply appreciate this post. Thank you. !ALIVE