#hive

Hive Exchange Listings and Communication/PR Proposal

This is my first proposal, and I would just like to say – I have no idea what I am doing. But due to feedback and conversations I have had with the community, I am going to give my best effort to describe my role in the Hive Launch and ask for compensation for those contributions through the DHF, rather than see my posts be over rewarded on Hive.

This is a new frontier we are in and trying to find a balance for rewarding valuable contributions to the ecosystem through both the rewards pool and DHF will be important going forward. We have many individuals contributing to the ecosystem, and we should reward that.. but I also see the value in having other ways to do so that does not rely on content. This is my attempt to take a step in that direction.

Proof of Work

Due to this being a unique proposal, not having to do with code or development, I felt the only way to show my work as well as full transparency was to detail my contributions in each aspect, I was a part of. It is a bit long, but felt it was important to include.

Communications

A short time after the purchase of Steemit by Justin Sun was announced, I was brought into a group to discuss options and possible future plans. I immediately took on the role of a “Head of Communications” of sorts and started building a cohesive way to tell the Community’s story. I then used my personal contacts to ensure this story was heard. This resulted in the initial coverage in Coindesk as well as additional articles after.

Detailed Work: When SF 22.2 launched, I worked personally with CoinDesk and helped to write the initial article that was posted about the situation. Including getting them up to date on the basics of the chain and what was happening, as well as helping to ensure they told the community’s story truthfully.

When 22.5 Hardfork happened, which became the Steem Hostile takeover and overthrew the governance by using exchange funds, I immediately went to work with CoinDesk again to ensure the story was covered. As well as reaching out to many New orgs - setting up interview for witnesses, stake holders and dApp owners to ensure our story was everywhere. I hit social media and every personal contact in the space I had to ensure it did not get buried, like past Tron questionable actions.

I started the Hiveblocks twitter, manned the official email (getting information to relevant parties) plus started running other forms of communication in Telegram and elsewhere, carrying out the goals of the group building Hive.

This resulted in many articles covering the situation, including the announcement of the upcoming Hive chain, the community and it’s story took over from there.

When Hive was announced I worked with CoinDesk again, as well as other influencers and journalists I knew in the space to set up interviews and news articles.

I believed that ensuring we told our powerful story and established hype around it would be vital for initial success of the project, as well as Exchange listings of HIVE. I believe we achieved this, without question.

Overview:

Started and ran social media account communications.
Responsible for, or contributed to, over 20 articles covering all aspects of the Steem Takeover to the Hive Launch which formed our powerful story and ensured it was heard.
Managing multiple Hive Telegram groups.
Being main point of contact through email and other communication platforms.

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CMC listing

I contacted CMC and filled out the application for listing HIVE and HBD. This included gathering legal, technical, and relevant information. I then worked with the team to formulate a description for the project as well as helped the CMC team correct errors, answer questions, etc through back and forth communication for the weeks following.

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Exchange Work

Exchange listings were an interesting aspect of launching Hive, as we are a decentralized community and therefore have no legal entity or company - which most exchanges “require.” In fact, we were told early on that it would be impossible to do anything without such an entity. We even had an individual who had done the work before state repeatedly that without a legal entity and paying for listings, we would not see HIVE on any exchanges. But with some ingenuity from the group as well as showcasing the power of the community and our story, we were able to satisfy legal requirements as well as show why no centralized company was needed.

I am also glad to report that we did not pay for a single listing, even though some started out asking for 150K plus, which the above-mentioned individual advised us to pay, as this was the “norm.”

I learned a lot during this time period and really tried to stick to my guns on not accepting any deal I did not feel was best for the community. Rather, we used the story we had built, the hype we had created and the active community to constantly put pressure on them with the demand ... and hold our line on what we would and would not do, even when some advised me not to.

We had a small group working on different aspects of the exchange listings. Some doing technical support or guidance etc. I would say I played the role of “point of contact” for lack of a better word and will try to put in as much detail my part of the exchange work below for each listing.

Bittrex

The Bittrex listing was fully due to the work done and relationship built by Gandalf previously. He, in my opinion, was the only reason Bittrex took the chance on us so quickly and really helped us be seen as a legitimate project right out of the gate. My part in this one was simply helping with communication of the “how”, gathering needed documentation or information, answering questions and coordinating marketing etc. After listing I also worked to help add the additional USD/USDT pairing.

Overview: • Helped with comms, gathered relevant documentation, organizing marketing etc. • Additional USD pairs assistance

Huobi

Conversations with Huobi started shortly after Hive announcement in March. We had a group telegram chat set up after the story broke on twitter and secured they would participate in the airdrop. I then went through the application process and gathered technical and legal information needed.

There were a few issues that occurred with the line of communication, and it was very hard to get all on the same page. We were requested to pay a large fee (over 100k) and when we said no to that then it was requested, we do a large deposit to list (80k), among other things. We made it known we would not be going along with these ideas and would not be paying for listings.

Finally, we removed our initial “point of contact” who seemed to not be working to carry out the goals of the group or what would benefit the community. We reorganized and after doing so things started to flow better. The head of their listing department was brought into the group and the process began to take shape. This took many weeks of work, and endless back and forth conversations, but we finally came to a listing agreement and began to plan the AMA.

Overview: • Completed listing application and compiled legal documentation • Was main point of contact 24/7 for over 3 weeks • Negotiated the fee from 150k to a free listing • Helped plan and run the AMA • Handled joint communication and marketing

Binance

My work with Binance started on March 6th 2020. I had a former contact at Binance reach out for guidance about their role in the Steem Hostile Takeover. After the story broke and they were mentioned in many articles as well as on twitter, they wanted help to move forward as they seemed to have no idea what they had done. There was some heated discussion, some explanation and essentially them realizing the gravity of the situation. We advised them to immediately remove their votes in governance (which was currently voting for Justin’s sock puppet witnesses) and start a power down immediately. It became clear very quickly they were not familiar with the blockchain and required a bit of help with every step.

We then set up a chat with them and a few devs to help them with any technical assistance needed and started to work towards trying to repair the relationship between the community and Binance.

When Hive was announced, they committed to the airdrop and we started working towards a possible listing. We were advised we would have to go through the same process as all other coins and sometimes that took months. I filled out the complex application, trying to somehow gather legal information as well as have them excluded requirements for a legal entity etc. The process took quite some time.

After that there was constant communication about when their withdrawals would be open, as well as some unfortunate communication from their support team which included incorrect information. I worked alongside them to correct this along the way.

Then there was a discussion of security deposits, listing fees as well as decentralized bug bounties. I worked to negotiate this down, and eventually they waived those aspects and listed HIVE on Binance with no fee.

Overview: • Initial contact to stop voting in governance on Steem and power down. • Set up communication with Devs for technical assistance • Completed listing application and compiled legal documentation • Was main point of contact from March to current • Handled communication aspects and joint marketing • Negotiated a free listing

ProBit, MXC, WazirX, & HotBit

Helped with communication, listing and legal documentation as well as AMA planning and execution.

Upbit and BitHumb

While no listing has been announced for these at this time, I have worked with them to fill out applications and gathered legal documentation as well as handled communication to work towards possible future listings. I will continue working towards listing HIVE.

Kraken, Shapeshift & Coinbase

These exchanges are considered some of the harder ones to be listed on, especially as STEEM had not even been listed previously, but we have done many things already that STEEM could not, so why stop now.

I have used some of my contacts in the space to get initial conversations going. Only initial contacts have been made for these, but hopefully it plants a seed for possible future listings. I will continue to work on these in the coming months.

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Continued Work

My plan is to continue helping with these aspects of Hive until we have the proper structure to hand them off to the community. I am already working with some individuals to start turning over some aspects, as the tasks being taken on by many would be better in the future imo. Main focuses will be listings on the major exchanges listed above and helping with communication, until I am no longer needed.

I then will be contributing to a project focused on solving the content discovery issue and other aspects of the platform I feel need to be improved to ensure long term success.

About Me

I joined Steem in January of 2017 and helped to establish the now Hive Blockchain. I have been involved with establishing or working on many projects and communities over my time here including: C-squared, Helpie, Curie, as well as the founding chair and project manager behind the initial Steem Alliance Foundation. My main role has been behind the scenes helping where needed and have been involved with countless projects just as an advisory role as well. My focus has always been on finding a way to empower the community and help it to see its full potential.

Funding

I am asking for 500 HBD a day for 60 days, as this is for work already completed as well as that which will be ongoing. So the proposal is covering 4 months worth of work, both past and future. I calculated the price based on time spent so far (30-40hrs/week since March) and amount saved in getting free exchange listings, versus the suggested 150k-300k that would have been spent from either stake holders, or the DHF (which is what our previous exchange rep had suggested would be the only way to accomplish listings).

I know this proposal is unique, as it is not for development aspects as well as for work already completed. But I believe what was accomplished speaks for itself, as we were able to achieve more in a short time frame than anyone thought was possible. I believe the above detailed proof of work description outlines my contributions in making that happen.

Voting

You can vote for my proposal here: Hive Signer or https://hivedao.com/proposal(#100) https://peakd.com/me/proposals/100

Final Thoughts

In the past we have always depended on Steemit Inc to handle all aspects covered in this proposal. With this now decentralized chain of ours, we will have to figure out how to do this as a community. Having the Decentralized Hive Fund gives us the ability to fund many different aspects of the work done to further the Hive ecosystem as well as empower our community.

This aspect is all very new to me, please feel free to ask questions or for more clarification. Much of my work can be vouched for those individuals involved in the core aspects of the Hive launch, as I have no code to show in that regard. So, I welcome all feedback and questions.

Thank you,

Justine

Edit

Due to some questions about the breakdown of “hourly” wage as well as committed work, I wanted to copy and paste a comment I made to answer that elsewhere.

Funding Breakdown original comment

“This, imo, is more of a contract style job proposal and not a hired hourly worker but will break it down the best I can:

I started full time work on the things described in my proposal on February 20th. I was actively working on the aspects listed in my proposal everyday since that time, every single day including nights and weekends. Some days may have been 4hrs.. others were 10+. I did this everyday. So let’s just go with 8hrs a day on average to get a baseline.

Past work completed Feb 20th through now = 74 days x 8, 592 hours.

Committed Future work Now until July 8th = 63 days x 8, 504 hours.

Total = 1096 hours total / 30,000 HBD (if fully funded and IF hbd holds its peg) = $27.37/hour.

Now for the sake of fairness I originally just estimated the work put in at 40hrs a week even though it has been more up until this point and I assume will continue to be. But If we just go with 40hrs a week instead to get a baseline for the whole time period worked and that which will be (through at least July 8th):

19 weeks x 40hrs a week = 760 hrs/30000 HBD = $39.47/hr

This of course only is factual if the whole proposal is funded and never falls out of consensus and of course the “hourly rate” depends on HBD staying pegged at $1, as we know is not guaranteed.

At anytime (if it’s approved) it can fall back out of approval and perhaps just be partially funded. This is an option if stakeholders feel that perhaps they do not agree with the full amount asked for.

Is it a decent amount of money? Absolutely. It’s also a skilled job that involved high level negotiations with large corporations as well as many other aspects. I do feel this hourly wage is inline with the work being done.

I do not feel entitled, but I feel it’s an overall fair assessment considering the community funds saved due to the work put in. I do think there should be a better way to track such hours and work and am working on a way to do that.

Hopefully that helps answer your questions.“

**Additional Questions, clarifications, and conversation concerning this proposal:**

https://hive.blog/hive/@justineh/clarification-and-questions-answered-about-my-proposal-in-response-to-a-post-by-belemo

*All rewards are being sent to the DHF. [Image Source](https://blog.vantagecircle.com/business-communication-tools/)

Comments · 104

@joshuaxs(13)· 1099d
Communication is really important.
@pundito(70)· 2266d
Hi @justineh, there is a small but for Europeans very interesting exchange called https://bitvavo.com or https://twitter.com/bitvavocom on twitter. There we could exchange steem directly with Euro fiat. Perfect! Many European Twitter users would appreciate it if they would list Hive too!
@chirag24(37)· 2288d
I am waiting for coinbase, it will be very good achievement of hive community.
@ilnegro(67)· 2288d
Hi Justine, what about to try to add to the list also the exchange bitvavo? https://bitvavo.com/en

This is my affiliate code: https://bitvavo.com/?a=B33CBBC018

It is a EU based exchange with very low fees and for who lives in EU you can deposit and withdraw in seconds from and to your bank account.

Thanks.
@hooked2thechain(52)· 2289d
Wow. Just wow. I'm so impressed by all the work you did. I started posting on Steemit 3 years ago but fell off the bandwagon last year. When I came back, I was surprised to see that the exact same content I had posted on Steemit was on this strange site called Hive. I thought, "Who plagiarized ALL my content?!"

That led to my journey down the rabbit hole of Hive. It was all there. All done. On exchanges and everything. It didn't even occur to me that someone would have volunteered their time and expertise towards getting us listed on so many prominent exchanges.

I've recently committed to posting and networking daily on Hive. Yours is the first proposal I've read and I can't help but agree with everything you say. The money you saved for HIVE is incredible. You worked some crazy magic and you deserve to get paid for that.
@currentxchange(57)· 2294d
@justineh You are an invaluable asset for Hive and I hope we find someone like you for our project!!

Some people don't understand that without this work, the rest just won't make a sound.
@actnearn(70)· 2296d
Efforts of Individuals or groups to help promote and develop Hive should be rewarded. Agree on that. But compensations need to be appropriate else we will be devaluing the blockchain value for future participants. 50-100$ a day is much accepted compensation.
@sgt-dan(66)· 2300d
Honeybadger supports this proposal!
@stellabelle(76)· 2300d
i'm voting yes to this.
@intrepidphotos(77)· 2300d
I am supporting this. I can't really vet if you have done what you have said; but if half of what you say happened then it is worth it and it's a low cost for the community compared to what has transpired if we had to pay full commercial rates. The @netuoso and @theycallmedan endorsements go a long way to add to your credibility.

IMO we need to set a precedent that this type of commercial work is not just important but essential to the survival of the HIVE blockchain itself. Hopefully the success of this proposal will see a flurry of competing proposals moving forward by multiple parties for lean quazi organizational positions which will become more transparent moving forward. Only then we will become a truly decentralized organization that can drive the HIVE platform. Democratic processes are always messy at the start, but we have to start somewhere, and proposals wont get repeat funding approved if they don't perform.

I normally don't let my two lives cross on social media, but in parallel to my photography career I have been managing the commercialization of technology startup companies for the past 15 years. Anyone crying that this dev fund should be strictly used for code developers does not understand what it takes to run an organization and launch a concept or technology into the world. Plenty of great technologies are dead on arrival. Let's not make the same mistake with Hive.
@jacobpeacock(74)· 2301d
@justineh Your work was/is instrumental and I clearly recall your efforts during the hostile takeover but did not know the full scope of it nor of the other work done later with the exchanges. I just want to say Thank You and that I will be voting for your proposal.

Furthermore if more folks held the sort of sentiment reflected in the following quote that would be nice but I suspect that is too much to ask. I can rarely stomach looking at the Trending posts under the Hive tag because of it:

rather than see my posts be over rewarded on Hive.

Cheers and again Thank You.
@artemislives(74)· 2301d
I personally think this ask is a reasonable one. And it's a courageous move from a talented woman in an otherwise very boysy crypto world.

I DO think @justineh deserves to be remunerated. and 30K is not unreasonable AT ALL. Au contraire. The VALUE the listings will bring to Hive far outweigh the modest amount she is asking for, which is well beneath commercial rate and which has saved the community a small fortune. Measure that cost over income generated over time and it becomes a tiny ask.

The only reason I haven't voted YES to the proposal is cos I do wonder if there MAY be others who also deserve remuneration. As a plankton in the pond, I don't even know enough to know who they might be.

I'd personally like to see a series of posts from people who know, who were there (not your average algae asking "what about me? I tweeted once") suggesting who the top people are they think contributed to listings (doing exactly what for how long etc) and to Hive's successful establishment who need-deserve remunerating. A top 5-10-20 group could be voted-agreed on by the wider community and a defined sum allocated. The Yes-No of the current proposal system doesn't allow for an alternative.

I guess what I'm really suggesting is a more structured approach to remunerating Hive talent in this decentralized space. One where people don't need to publicly pitch for remuneration but where the community agrees that the time costs of marketing, listing etc be reimbursed to those talented people who commit and volunteer for the greater good.

A quiet private standing ovation for a courageous community member who has contributed a huge amount and has the courage to ask for what she is worth.
@minnerz22(64)· 2302d
Are Metal Pay and or Crypto.com in the running to be pursued for listing? I feel Hive on Metal pay would be sweet. Lets make some videos!
@jaguar.force(73)· 2303d
Voted. You deserve this and much more. Thank you for your kick ass work.
@carloserp-2000(69)· 2303d
That's how it works! Congratulations for everything you do every day and above all thank you for the effort
@skepticology(58)· 2303d
Have you tried negotiating with yourself for a lower fee?
@alexvanaken(68)· 2303d
Hey @justineh I have a connection that may be able to help, can we chat on discord or telegram or something?
@arcange(79)· 2303d
Your help at making Hive listed on several exchanges has been invaluable. The quality of this proposal is in perfect accordance with the work already accomplished.

Thank you @justineh.

I will support this proposal.
@praditya(67)· 2303d
This proposal seems interesting. I am up for it, definitely gonna vote. keep up. best of luck.
@marki99(62)· 2303d
30k HBD is no small amount.

I am voting the proposal, but wished it was asking for less.
@bubke(61)· 2303d
thumbs up, i have asked bitvavo.com a few times already, they are based in Europe and they have a Steem/EUR fiat listing, would be nice if you could include them in your efforts. Thanks
@foxkoit(76)· 2303d
I want see how this all works out.

But it is just me who thinks this and say... but I think it is too early to ask it, such a question is currently causing too many internal problems. I would have waited 12 months and then asked.

Buy I hope all works out in a good way. 👌

I hope to see soon new live 😊👌
@skillz(40)· 2303d
Thank for awesome post, totally reposted! 🔛
@for91days(76)· 2303d
Yeah - GO FOR IT!
@promisearts(67)· 2303d
I feel like cheering so loud right now, with dancing, shaking and all. It's great to see people like you always working to make Hive work better, I wish I could do something significant too. Keep up the good work!
@d0zer(61)· 2303d
Great work on the listings. You should be rewarded for this. But I dont think we need more listings. We have Bittrex. Binance. ... More than enough.

We should focus on our platform.
@norbu(70)· 2303d
I support this and shall vote for it! But this does lay bare the fact that people who work for building the platform, in a non tech way, should also be compensated but it should not be through proposals. For "everyday work" like listed on this post, a new way of payment should be introduced which avoids having to put in a proposal IMO.
@eturnerx(69)· 2303d
$30K is excellent value for the work you've done so far for the community. Happy to vote my support.
@deathwing(73)· 2303d
At first, I was surprised at the daily pay, then I checked the proposal duration. The amount is very fair and everyone and their grandmas should be voting for this proposal.

Awesome job so ar @justineh!
@wil.metcalfe(62)· 2303d
We really need to keep the incentive's going out to those who step into the gaps. Because as a decentralized project there's going to be plenty of those to go around. We need to reward those willing to invest themselves in the work.

It seems that some here are still used to how things worked at Steem(It). Steem(It) was a system of scarcity because (for one) SteemIt continued to sell (going short) and ended up bottoming out the price of Steem. They basically cannibalized the project.

I believe that we can do better here on the Hive Blockchain. Together we are building a system of surplus!

This community is full of smart, brilliant, hardworking, and committed people! That means this is a place of infinite potential and I don't think it's right to quibble over chump change like chumps especially when valuable work is being done. We are better than that and Hive is bigger than this level of thinking.

Let's always remember that the minds that created the problems are not the minds that can fix those problems... We need to think about things differently than we did before if we want to move on to bigger and better things! Small thinking isn't going to get us there... We can't afford that if we want a future worth the work.

Let's keep the innovation going and always remember that Hive is based on ground breaking revolutionary concepts. This project and community is worth going the distance for! As long as we continue to do that... investments and intelligent minds will continue to pour in.

It's why I continue to invest in Hive both in money, my time, and my attention. I believe in this project. I believe in this community.

Considering all that you have been doing to move this Blockchain forward I think this is s reasonable compensation. Thank you @justineh! I will vote for your proposal. Keep doing what you do! 🙌

Edit: Just voted for this proposal with this account (and the @AdventureReady & @BeachReady accounts).
@abitcoinskeptic(75)· 2304d
Not the biggest fan of allowing Binance and Huobi the privilege to list Hive, however, I appreciate your work and understand some people want to forgive them for their attack on Steem.

30k is cool, Justin Sun definitely deserves it much less than you.

Thanks for your hard work.

~ supported
@lion200(63)· 2304d
Hi there. I'm sure everyone is grateful for everything you have done for this community. I think it is more than fair to create a proposal for your efforts.

But... I think the amount you are asking is very high. Not to undervalue your work or hours you have spent but I strongly agree with people saying that the community effort at various platforms was a very big push to get all these listing, media awareness etc. possible.

I never use Twitter, but to defend the decentralized community I became active and tried my best to help raise awareness in the outside world for what is going on. I and lots of other people did this, spent hours to save the community and raised our voices. Noone expected anything in return. It was an act of defense.

I also disagree with this part:

I calculated the price based on time spent so far (30-40hrs/week since March) and amount saved in getting free exchange listings

The part you mention "amount saved in getting free exchange listings". So because you haved a big amount, you should get compensated for that?

I save the company I work for thousands of dollars, but usually this is considered "part of the job". You can't ask for compensation for the hours you've spent for this, AND a separate compensation for the amount you've saved, which again is not only achieved by you but with the power of community behind you. World doesn't work that way.

So, summarized, I would support if the amount you were asking was realistic. But it is completely out of proportion in my opinion.

With all due respect, I decided not to support this proposal.
@aussieninja(70)· 2304d
Well done Justine!

I think a lot of the people opposing this proposal are forgetting that in a truly decentralized community, something that is everyone's job becomes no one's job. It's so easy for everyone to rely on anyone else to get things done, and so nothing gets done.

The work that Justine has done behind the scenes has increased the platform as a whole and increased the value of everyone's stake. Hive has no CEO, which is great because no one can take advantage, but it's bad when dealing with other corporations, etc. Other companies aren't going to trust a mess of people, they need a professional person to be the main contact and negotiator.

I have no problem with people questioning the numbers, but I don't think we should attack or discourage people asking for payment or undertaking responsibilities that benefit the community. Imagine Hive on Coinbase, there's a huge change it would benefit us all, but Coinbase isn't going to trust a faceless community.

Totally happy for people to put in proposals for their own value adding work that benefits the community... I don't think it should only be for development, because, quite frankly, what's the point of having the best blockchain in the world if no one knows about it?
@btcvenom(69)· 2304d
Hey, have you tried getting Hive listed on the new crypto.com exchange? It is fairly new and I am guessing they would list it pretty fast.
@urun(69)· 2304d
I am against this. Reason is you ask for payment for past work.

It is the same i give someone my help without any contract, and afterwords i present a bill for it. It feels a bit scammy to me.

It would for me 100% okay for some Future work or projects.
@offgridlife(74)· 2304d
I support this 100% .... I see you day in and day out. Hustling for Hive on Twitter. Upvoted and re hived. I will send you some Bitcoin.
@enjar(79)· 2304d
I would have personally liked to have seen several names on this. At least another was included. Even if all they were getting was a very small amount such as 1-5% for their contributions. It is also understandable that you played a major role on the legal side of things for getting stuff done when it was not appropriate to be carried out in public like tweeting. As such this is more of personal involvement than a group effort showcase.

A couple of other people who slept very little with their dealing with AMAs, making contacts, and other dealings I doubt would stand any chance at getting a proposal passed if they went this route. Hopefully, those that did make regular posts regarding their contributions so the community could reward in kind for their efforts if they choose.

A point I would like to add regarding some comments regarding Twitter. Yes, large business deals in other industries do get a start or even go down on Twitter, Instagram, and other places. They often times play quite a critical role in getting the wheels turning at the very least.

It would have also been nice for the community to have had a better understood some of the roles witnesses played in all of this. So that witness support by the community could have been given if individuals feel it was warranted. Unless the lack of other witnesses named in this post is poting out the lack of involvement.

While it’s understandable many are upset and feel this kind of proposal undermines the community effort overall regarding the past several months. Quite a large amount of the community took part in incentives that rewarded posts and comments for proof of work and involvement. I can only hope to see large stakeholders in the future continue to help reward smaller more individual efforts on these fronts. Along with more community members making an effort to play however a small role they can.

From an accounting standpoint, it would have been nice to have seen a more detailed breakdown in estimated and projected future hours, along with what % of the fees that were saved that went into the amount being asked for in total.

As the up to savings of $300k in listing fee alone seems to be quite low with some of the rumor costs out there just to get on some of those exchanges with the trading pairs we did. Which sometimes do hold more value in the rarity they are issued from a speculative standpoint than the actual cost. So I can understand it being more in a range than a defined set number.

I already voted for this yesterday after having a few conversions with less than thrilled individuals. Along with evaluating this a couple of times myself. While the amount might seem quite steep to some. Cryptocurrency is quite a fast and young growing sector where those with leadership, skills, drive, and contacts demand quite a large price these days. This is understandable for how starved this sector is for manpower, talent, and so on. This amount seems like a decent deal if it gets passed as other blockchains would have paid a lot more for a fraction of what was done by your part.
@borislavzlatanov(65)· 2304d
Firstly, thank you so much for the enormous contributions you have made to the community!

Do you think it would help if a project for the kind of work you are doing is created on Gitlab (alongside the dev projects there)? It seems that the devs organized things pretty well - the community can see the work on the various projects set up on Gitlab, there are even bi-weekly meetings going on so interested community members can follow them. It creates huge transparency. And people can follow that work and vote on proposals based on what they see.

Other types of work, like what you are doing, are also needed for this community and blockchain to flourish. So perhaps what you are doing can similarly be set up as a project on Gitlab so transparency and better participation from the community can happen. What do you think? It would provide proof of the work done by you.
@frankbacon(66)· 2304d
HIVE.D

🙏😎🥓👍 Queen Be @fulcrumnews
@ozchartart(76)· 2304d
wow
@paragism(66)· 2304d
The Coinbase listing bounty made by some members is open. I guess, you can easily grab that. By the way, this proposal is very surprising as nothing can be verified by the community members. People will vote on what basis? Good faith?
@teutonium(65)· 2304d
In my opinion, you deserve to receive money for your work, I know you are one of the people in the frontlines and from reading through all the comments I know you did an awesome job with the listings, there is one thing I disagree with though, the amount...

The amount of money you are asking is way too much in my opinion... I know that 30k is not much for Americans, but 30k is a lot for other countries, and Hive is a world-wide blockchain, so the salary is a little too much in my opinion... many doctors in my country don't earn that in 1 whole year working only at the hospital(most have to work at multiple places)! And I live in Europe, which isn't exactly poor... so, I will fund it, but not to 30k(still not sure how to fund it up to a certain amount), I think 15k for all that work is more aligned to what I believe you should earn, especially since, like I said, this is a worldwide blockchain and many countries and investors are represented here, the salary should have that in mind.

Ofc, if the community reaches the consensus that you deserve 30k, I'm fine with it ofc...

This second point is more of a rant, but after reading some comments on different post regarding this proposal I have to say something...

It seems some people are diminishing the importance of all the people who tweeted and fought on tweeter to give exchanges and big crypto people bad PR for the hostile takeover, which pisses me off a little, especially since the bad PR was probably one of the reasons that so many exchanges decided to join in on the fight, and even made CZ and binance realize they must have done something wrong, the bad PR also made your job a little easier. I took days out of my time, and even tried to multitask while studying for an exam, to tweet and fight the hostile takeover on tweeter while many people only tried to monetize the whole thing on Steem(which I never did since the fight was more about values for me) ... it's kinda sad to see that some people are diminishing that "work".
@joshman(74)· 2304d
I remember being admonished for making 'backroom deals for votes'. But I suppose it must be okay if that backroom is slack? If this slack has become a marketplace for effort on hive going forward, it should be open to the public, given you are requesting public funds, there should be the opportunity for competition and visibility. That said, I thought this was a system of proposal for future work, not remuneration for previous efforts. Seems like if you are wishing to build some stake and be rewarded, there are enough of your advocates from slack who could step up in that department, and thus leave the 'proposal' system for propositions of possible work to the community.
@arynews193(37)· 2304d
That's good
@elsiekjay(77)· 2304d
Sorry, but this is outrageous!

I do not support this. This in my opinion was community effort.

Not to sound rude or ungrateful, but the exchanges would probably have supported THE HIVE COMMUNITY despite who approached them. Only because we showed our strength collectively. Without each and every person that talked, shouted, and pushed back on #steemhostiletakeover, this might not have been possible.

It's okay that you feel entitled to take some credit, but $30,000 is a little too much for something the entire community brought to the table. Without the community none of this would have been possible.

I'd probably support a much lower amount, but this surely feels like a cash grab from the pool. Money that can be used in other aspects of the blockchain.

Cheers!
@neoxian(72)· 2304d
Honestly I think the proposal asks for too much pay. If were a lesser amount I'd consider voting for it. As it is, I will not.
@shanghaipreneur(72)· 2304d
As far as I'm concerned, the work you describe doing here is of a value that far exceeds the 30,000 HBD you have requested. Considering that listing on Huobi and Binance alone could easily be worth $1m or more a piece and will long be a source of value and pride to the HIVE community.

Will sign with pleasure and admiration.
@brianoflondon(77)· 2304d
I've had some tangential exposure to the work @justineh and the others she mention were doing in the background through the Hive launch and up to getting the various exchange listings including USD pairings on multiple major exchanges! Something that never happened in the days of the old chain.

I'm supporting this but on the caveat that this branch out into wider PR. We have exchanges, the other exchanges will be coming to Hive from now on. The work to promote the chain as a place where people can build REAL businesses and engage real audiences of people, not gambling or speculating bots, is the job that needs to be done.
@mintymile(69)· 2304d
Hey, really good work on getting HIVE listed for free in the exchanges - Bttrex (Gandalf great job), Huobi, Binance.

And really well negotiated with the power down for Binance. You have done amazing work behind the scenes and helped HIVE get listed and it's just amazing.

Glad to know this story on how Coindesk got stories, how HIVE got listed, and how Binance powered down...there was you and a team working hard for all this!!

Appualses...
@mintymile(69)· 2304d
Looks like did a lot of good work in PR front, getting the story properly to Coindesk, great!!

Some news guys like Decrypt have actually got Steem story wrong, so it's important someone like you ensures proper information with sequence of events to journalists.

Good JOb, much appreciated!!
@lordbutterfly(80)· 2304d
So youre asking for 30k USD? lol

I thought Netuoso asking for 150 HBD a day was excessive and potentially wasteful, but this... a retroactive proposal for being part of a team of people that helped push this forward is beyond excessive. (To put it nicely) 50 HBD a day, sure. 500? No, HELL no.

If this passes i really fear how the fund will be spent in the future.

I had almost 500k impressions on twitter during the takeover. I contacted directly a few big crypto youtubers ("contacts") that picked up my tweets and story. How much do you think i should ask for? Guys... @theycallmedan, @blocktrades... should i get 10 HBD a day for my work? I think thats fair, 15 HBD maybe, 150 HBD?

How bout the 100 others that did the same thing? How bout all the witnesses, community members that spread the word? Should we just spread the fund equally among the community?

The point is... Not a single thing, not a single listing, would be possible, no matter the "contacts" (youre not a crypto veteran) or emails anyone sent if the community didnt step up.

For that reason, singling yourself out as someone deserving 30k USD is just wow. Sry.
@dswigle(78)· 2304d
Thank you for all of your hard work!
@gadrian(76)· 2304d
While we can see the impressive end results, I for one never knew who to congratulate for them and the work being done! Thank you, congratulations to you and the small team who has pushed on this endeavor to bring exchanges on board, and great to see this proposal which I've just given support to, obviously.
@steemitri(65)· 2304d
Thanks a lot for everything you have done!

I'm supporting this proposal!

Hugs Steemitri The Mannequin @steemitri
@alexbiojs(64)· 2304d
IMHO (in my humble opinion) (given that the blockchain-based soical media usually promote the freedom of speech):

"...and I would just like to say – I have no idea what I am doing..." to be fair, sounds suspicious/strange

It would be more rational/productive to create such a proposal in the first place (explaining how much it (the person's work) is gonna cost (at least approximately)), and then (if community think that this is what it needs and this is the right person to achieve this) do the job, potentially even getting useful feedback from the community on how to prioritize (or even distribute) the tasks.

what's more, Seems like this DHF / Hivedao proposal system is focused on just 1 aspect - offer/proposal/proposition; But there's always the opposite side (2) -> demand/request;

So, if a community project needs exposure, exchange listing etc., it would make sense to create a post in the context of DHF system asking the whole community/all users for talents/people with the corresponding connections etc. to suggest their offers (so that it is a wide range of people dealing with what you've done/describe in your post). This would help to make the process more decentralized, new people to shine/discover new talents, to reward more people and, potentially, to be more productive.
@bescouted(71)· 2304d

But with some ingenuity from the group as well as showcasing the power of the community and our story, we were able to satisfy legal requirements as well as show why no centralized company was needed.

That is spectacular achievement indeed! I know how hard is to get listed and especially with no legal entity. So my vote definitely goes to you.

While writing the code is crucial for Hive it is not the only activity needed to get mass adoption by far and i would not want to see extremely valuable effort go waste or to discourage others.

Thank you @Justineh for your service.

p.s. I believe your HiveDao link is broken https://hivedao.com/proposal(#100)
@infa(68)· 2304d
Full support #hiveon!
@mohammadsaleh(55)· 2304d
Hive is doing awsome. Thanks, Please show great ways to earn hive
@zord189(75)· 2304d
Voted! Hope you get your proposal accepted
@ashtv(71)· 2304d
What fantastic work you have done @justineh and continue to do! Great to get an insight and appreciate the work that has gone in to Hive. I will support your proposal.
@codingdefined(76)· 2304d
Thanks for the work done.
@v4vapid(73)· 2304d
Hi there, First, thank you for all of the long hours and hard work you've been doing behind the scenes, advocacy and everything you do for the Hive community. I would also like to thank you for putting forth this proposal as, if I'm not mistaken, the first non-development related bid that I'm aware of. This is an important step forward for the DHF system. I think you deserve a lot of credit for helping Hive get to where it is right now and I do believe that your work is deserving of compensation. Thank you. So, if I understand this proposal correctly, you'd like to receive $100 dollars / hour or 30,000 HBD for your work in getting exchanges listed, retroactively. Now, this may be an unpopular thing to say but I'm not sure that 500 HBD x 60 days is an appropriate sum for the work, roughly $30,000 (if the usd/peg holds). For some people this is a year's worth of wages. So, I think this work should be discussed in greater detail as I find it's hard for most of us to know the extent of the back-channel communication that went on. Certainly, the witnesses and hundreds of users also had very little sleep while the battle for Steem raged on for weeks across multiple platforms. But they are not asking for compensation, (at least not yet), they just did it to defend their community and to do what was right. So, I think some discussions about the DHF itself should be had before we start handing out the DHF rewards (Incidentally, I think some would argue the DHF should be burned or greatly reduced, including myself). Steem was a very dysfunctional place before the Justin Sun drama and many of the issues have not been resolved because of the fork, exchange listings, or rebranding. As you point out, getting listed on some of the major exchanges usually involves a hefty fee - $100,000 to $350,000 in some cases. That's a pretty penny. Therefore, getting listings for free is quite an accomplishment! Yet, after Huobi and Binance both colluded to overthrow the governance of the Steem DPOS governance system, I think there was a lot of pressure on them from the community at large and from the bad press they received in the process. They needed a way to - 'save face'. One could argue that to make amends for their gross error in judgement that providing a FREE listing would be a fitting restitution. They owed that much to the community. The Bittrex listing is credited to @g2g, thank you Gandalf. The next several exchanges you helped with communications and some legal documents.

ProBit, MXC, WazirX, & HotBit Helped with communication, listing and legal documentation as well as AMA planning and execution.

I've used Probit, and it's decent but not much volume or trading pairs. The others I'd have to ask others about because I've never tried them but I also haven't heard of them either. So, from my limited perspective (not privy to Slack and witness chats), I'm not sure that 30,000 HBD is an appropriate sum. ##### Who am I to judge what it's worth? Obviously, it's not for me to determine, it's up for community voting and others may think that this is an appropriate amount for your work behind the scenes. That's for each individual to decide for themselves. Unless, there's a greater amount of demonstrative proof-of-work, then I cannot support this proposal in its current form. If it was amended to reflect a more realistic amount, then I think I could support it. Let me reiterate, your work is valuable and appreciated. These are just my thoughts. I hope you continue your efforts to gain more listings and good luck with your proposal. Thank you again. *edit - changed 33k-30k
@miti(76)· 2304d
ad to support your proposal. I know anything about your work in the shadows, but in the light of all your effort I think you deserve every HBD you can get out of this.
@theycallmedan(80)· 2304d
Justine has been putting in a lot of work and is good at what she does. I'll be voting this prop. Cheers Justine, keep up the good work!
@oliverschmid(70)· 2304d
Awesome! Proposal [✓]
@daveks(83)· 2304d
Like I said before @justineh for ceo, or Hive chief evangelist or something like that anyways! Thanks for all your hard work!
@peakd(74)· 2304d
We are very very impressed... and thankful to you!
@catotune(66)· 2305d
This was a fascinating, and easily digestable, overview of HIVE's journey as a result of the hostile takeover, and your role in it all. I appreciate the very personal and grassroots perspective of this post, since I had only read about the split from broadly reported articles from the web.
@nonameslefttouse(77)· 2305d
Of course this proposal gets my vote. It does seem odd to use the author reward pool to fund things like development and infrastructure when there's a large pool of funds just asking to be used responsibly, sitting there, waiting to be used.

Thank you for all your hard work.
@hivepeople(65)· 2305d
Wow, this is an enormous amount of work, we have voted for your proposal, and support your work 100%. Hive is lucky to have you. You deserve payment for all the work you did.
@asimpleman(46)· 2305d

rather than see my posts be over rewarded on Hive

The above statement may indicate a flaw in the thinking of the majority of whales and therefore witnesses.

If you are interested in an alternative perspective i would be delighted to share.
@meesterboom(81)· 2305d
Voting with all of my bits :0)
@galenkp(84)· 2305d
Thanks for all your work Justine. ✅💜
@lunaticpandora(70)· 2305d
You're a kickass and I'll support this 100%!
@kingscrown(82)· 2305d
good stuff! im supporting this
@bitcoinflood(80)· 2305d
Everything looks pretty good on this. I know my upvote doesn't count for all that much but just a little bit to help you and continue the growth of Hive.
@joelsegovia(65)· 2305d
This proposal actually gives me hope about the success of our platform!!! Finally we are understanding that core development isn't the only action needed to make this place the huge success it can be... That being said, what I love the most about this proposal is that it is about already achieved results!!!

You should not be thinking so soon about a time when you are not needed anymore tho, save that for when we have already surpassed Facebook... This huge is the size of the potential of this place.

Kind regards
@hiveqa(59)· 2305d
Thank you J! for all the time and effort you've put into this community. I know how much it means to you! I hope this does get funded and we all push forward making Hive a true winner in the crypto space. Voted!
@shmoogleosukami(73)· 2305d
You've got my backing!
@clumsysilverdad(65)· 2305d
Working on ' content discovery issue ' seems like a great project as well.
@mcfarhat(71)· 2305d
We value everything you do on hive @justineh , thank you! Supported of course.
@sunsan(62)· 2305d
Hive soon gained good strength. I believe it will be even better. I recently got hive on the Binance exchange. It was 2 days ago. But I will try other exchanges
@taskmaster4450(86)· 2305d

I know this proposal is unique, as it is not for development aspects as well as for work already completed.

It might be unique but is sorely needed. We need to fund all aspect of the communities growth, with development being one piece of the equation.

The services you mentioned are vital going forward. Of course, more is needed hence why the proposal makes sense. No way we can rest on our laurels.

People complained about the lack of outreach by Steemit Inc, well here is the opportunity to change it. We need to properly fund it to get it done.
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@yujomar(63)· 2305d
A good communication job waiting for positive results for the community
@markkujantunen(77)· 2305d
Fantastic work, Justine! Thank you for all your toil. I'm 100% in support of this.
@nickyhavey(74)· 2305d
Thank you for all the substantial efforts you've put in here, no doubt it must have been really testing and required a lot of patience judging by your summary (and what a summary)! I happily voted for the proposal and hope the community will also step in and vote too.
@cervantes(78)· 2305d
Having been part of the core hive group since the very beginning we confirm the validity of the proof of work stated above. All step, successive contributions, chronology and invested effort by @justineh have truly contributed to the success in the several listings, which is key for the valuation of HIVE and invaluable for hive as community. Therefore we fully support this proposal as we understand this is, together with other technical proposals, exactly for what the HFD was created and founded.
@midlet(74)· 2305d
Thanks for all the hard work @justineh :) Got my support.
@ammonite(73)· 2305d
Very happy to vote for this. It is those in the background beavering away that makes this such an exciting project and I think they should be rewarded. Thank you.
@liondani(70)· 2305d
Keep listing, keep supporting, keep hiving!
@soyrosa(75)· 2305d
THANK YOU Justine! I am honestly humbled by the amount of press AND generous Exchange listings we've gotten. This is what immediately sets Hive apart from any other Fork that has been done in the past and is going to happen in the future. Great use of our story as it truly makes Hive even more special than it already was - I'm just imagining those Exchanges scratching their heads thinking 'WTF they are not going to pay but DAMN they deserve this listing!'

You taught quite a few people a lesson.

Thanks again <3
@xxxxxxxxxx(67)· 2305d
I will be beyond disappointed in this community if this proposal is not funded.

Thank you for everything you’ve done. We would not be where we are today without you.
@gabbynhice(67)· 2305d
I think you are one of the few content creators that i really like. I mean that i drink all your words. Thanks for your work! Hope i made the vote good on this proposal. I think this is the first time i voted 😊
@pouchon(78)· 2305d
My plan is to continue helping with these aspects of Hive until we have the proper structure to hand them off to the community. I am already working with some individuals to start turning over some aspects, as the tasks being taken on by many would be better in the future imo. Main focuses will be listings on the major exchanges listed above and helping with communication, until I am no longer needed (extract from your post)

You will always be needed. You started the course, if God wants you stay on course. I am hoping you receive all the votes required on your work and thanks for detailing everything so clear. I am pretty sure you have more work under your sleeve for #hive. The community needs everyone to help it move forward. Great job!
@emrebeyler(76)· 2305d
Nice proposal ID squatting.

Voted. A giant thank you for your efforts.
@resiliencia(75)· 2305d
Thank you very much @justineh! We really appreciate those listings, the other ones if we could achieve it, it will be huge!
@victoriabsb(75)· 2305d
now this is a proposal i understand! i mean i know we need to fund the technical ones but this is what the DHF is for, pay for work done in benefit of the chain!
@gentleshaid(75)· 2305d
I've been wondering who's really behind the funding of all these giant steps that hive has been making and I'm really glad my question is getting answered. You have worked really hard and deserved to get paid. My question is, does this proposal covers everyone that worked or is working with you or this is unique to you only? If this is only for you, does it means we will see a similar proposal from others that worked with you? What is going to happen if this proposal doesn't make it?

Note: I'm supporting the proposal right away and I hope others will do the same.
@sepracore(64)· 2305d
Yes, yes, hell yes. This is exactly the type of proposal and positions we need. Development is great but if no one knows about it or uses it, what is the point? It is great to know your behind the scenes role in all this. Thank you.
@steemaction(41)· 2305d
Vote Done :(
@demotruk(75)· 2305d
Voted for your proposal.
@netuoso(72)· 2305d
I am excited to see this particular proposal. @justineh has kicked ass when it comes to getting Hive listed on exchanges. The massive amount of listings speaks for itself.

This is such a weird job for her because Hive is a truly decentralized community and that is very new for businesses to deal with. Hive is actually kind of laying the necessary groundwork for decentralized blockchains to coexist with the traditional world.

I hope anyone that saw the recent Hive price pump and the massive amounts of media awareness will vote for this proposal because that is an excellent way to say thank you for you work @justineh.

I look forward to seeing Hive integrated with the likes of Coinbase in the future!

Edit: and on top of everything, seems you opted to set the DHF as a 100% beneficiary on this post. Thankfully peakd has a tipping feature!
@holger80(75)· 2305d
Thank's a lot for your work! I just want you to know that the link to proposals leads to steempeak:

Peakd: https://steempeak.com/proposals

Correct would be: Peakd: https://peakd.com/proposals