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How come relationships are so hard?


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Are they hard?

I don't think so. At least, I don't think they need be. However, I think they are getting harder to navigate in the current environment of selfishness, on-demand satisfaction, social media warping expectations and people just being worse with other people. Our social ability gave us the edge to beat the smarter Neanderthals, yet we seem to be turning into our anti-social cousins, minus the intelligence - because that is going backwards. Yes, our intelligence is declining, especially in developed countries.

Everything is declining.

Except our waist size.

But I was reading a stupid article about a stupid topic, where some woman in her late twenties posted on Twitter or some such a list of all the "non-negotiable" attributes. The list:


  • 35 to 42 y/o
  • healthy masculine
  • smart, funny, lighthearted
  • provider/protector mentality
  • post economic (still hardworking)
  • must be kind, generous, thoughtful
  • no kids yet, decidedly wants kids
  • on the healing path (history of serious commitment ex therapists, books, retreats)
  • can meet anywhere but will not date unless live in the same city
  • fit and sober because you care about your health

strongly preferred

  • no prev marriages or engagements
  • works in tech (comfortable with risk and career is blended into personal life)

Fair enough. People can make all the lists they want about what they want and can stick to it (since these are non-negotiables) as much as they want - but, they are also going to have to take responsibility for not finding that person. But even if they do find that person, being rejected by them because they are not the kind of person who would want to be with the list maker.

I always find it interesting when people talk about what they want in a partner, but feel that kind of person would also choose them. They talk about what they want, but don't consider what they bring to the table, or don't bring to the table of a relationship themselves.

Entitlement.

Looking at that list though, a 35-42 year old who is post economic (which should be post-economic) and still single without kids or previous marriages or engagements, but still has a history of serious commitments, is going to be a rare find. Well, if they are out there and they haven't been married or engaged by that age and have no children, you'd have to question why.

But of course, this woman just wants someone to pay for her life, and accept her as she is, which is the kind of person who makes lists saying what she wants in a man, and putting it on social media. That alone would nix her from the list of most intelligent, wealthy, healthy men.

Oh, intelligent didn't make the list.

There are men out there that might make a similar list on social media, but I am assuming that they wouldn't get a lot of support for doing so. But, even if they mention "fit" in there, they will be lambasted for being shallow. And then if they added "submissive mentality" instead of provider/protector, imagine the response.

The problems that I see with a lot of relationships today, is that people are increasingly selfish, demanding that their needs are satisfied, without considering the needs of their partner much at all. Most people today don't want to compromise, don't want to miss out, don't want to be uncomfortable - but the only way to do so, is to be alone.

Which is a massive compromise.

I don't know what will happen in the future of relationships, because it seems that there aren't many healthy ones out there that last long-term, which means there is also a decreasing amount of role model relationships as well. There are plenty of dysfunctional relationships on display though, because we are bombarded with slices of celebrity relationships, as if they are the picture of health, while nearly all of them fall apart. But the more media we consume, the more influence it has over us and our expectations of others.

We want what we are not fit to have.

You deserve better....

Do you though?

It is an interesting conflict we have though, as while many people want to be in a healthy relationship, they do very little to make themselves healthy partners, as if they are not part of the equation at all. They expect the other person to provide all the health, while they can just be and do whatever they want, and it will all work out. But when it inevitably doesn't, it was their partner's fault for not being enough.

We are all enough.

But that doesn't mean we can have whatever we want. Because while we might be suitable in some ways, we might be incompatible in others. No one has it all, no one can be it all, no one can provide it all. Relationships are always going to require compromise and if someone is in a relationship with an uncompromising partner, they are in for a pretty rough experience, because it is abusive.

But hey, keeping making those lists for your perfect ten partner.

And then look in the mirror and consider how that perfect ten, will rate you.

Taraz [ Gen1: Hive ]


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Comments · 12

  • @seattlea(78)· 22h

    But relationships are hard even when you have a great and compatible partner... They are hard, because people make assumptions about what your partner really wants, they are hard because sometimes we have hot temper and because of imperfect communication and a host of other things...

    The list this woman made is just silly :) But I noticed that sometimes stupid people get lucky...

  • @ryivhnn(73)· 23h

    a 35-42 year old who is post economic (which should be post-economic) and still single without kids or previous marriages or engagements, but still has a history of serious commitments, is going to be a rare find.

    I was just discussing that with J after reading the list XD

    That alone would nix her from the list of most intelligent, wealthy, healthy men.

    I do remember some people doing their lists on Facebook back in the day (not that prevalent at the time but maybe I just didn't pay much attention to the people who were doing it as they tended to be the kind of people that "just wants someone to pay for her life, and accept her as she is", there were some slight variations for guys as at the time some backwards weirdos "trad gender roles" types still thought it was "weird" if a female partner in a hetero couple was the main breadwinner) and I wonder if there was a genuine belief that someone would somehow stumble across that list and think I tick all those boxes we're perfect for each other.

  • @bozz(83)· 1d

    I'm pretty lucky I found my wife when I did. I don't know how much of a chance I would have these days. Not because I am not worth it, but because as you said the standards are so different and so high due to entitlement. I feel really bad for the younger generation having to navigate all of this.

  • @shanibeer(74)· 1d

    Sorry if I've said this before, I feel I have somewhere and probably here as these are the kinds of things you talk about: A guy asked me out, saying, without pause, "you're single, you're not bad looking and you live next door".

  • @macchiata(80)· 1d

    I saw that post on X as well. And what comes to my mind at first was like, Well, compatibility isn't like a shopping list. But I recently learned about AHP (Analytical Hierarchy Process) method and interestingly, my professor mentioned about "how to choose the right partner" through matrices and that method. I never really thought about it that way but it was interesting to evaluate our potential partners through that. Personally for me, love and relationships, they are more than lists or evaluation matrices.

  • @santigs(71)· 1d

    As you mention, just the act of creating a list and posting it on social media is a clear way to treat a relationship as a working project or mission, completely forgetting its most of a 'sentiment' mission than 'practical' one. They do not want to spend the time to meet someone spending time and getting to know him/her and learn if there is any spark as they only focus on the rational part of their brain, and forget the sentimental part of their hard.

    The problem is not a list, we all probably have mental lists of what we would like in that someone. The problem is trying to solve your needs not considering the other one also has needs to reach that spark.

  • Are they hard? I don't think so. At least, I don't think they need be.

    Don't you think that this slightly contradicts what you said in one of your previous posts?

    No one notices what I do. Everyone notices what I don't do.

    You are in a relationship that has lasted for quite long. Yet is seems that despite that your efforts are often not acknowledged. Accepting that sounds like a compromise as well. So at least some parts of relationships must be quite hard/ challenging.😛

  • A selfish person is not good for marriage

  • @patricia15(58)· 1d

    Relationships on camera. It's rarely genuine. Take me back to the old time love which we mostly heard of. Now there only Genz everywhere. There is a serious problem in our present relationship which I think is not shown much consideration. What is more than a healthier relationship? Can't think of any.

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  • @jacobtothe(77)· 1d

    Intelligence. Virtue. Wisdom. All notably lacking from the list of non-negotiable attributes. High-value people want relationships with high-value people based on deeper meaning than appearance and wealth, not that either is a negative.

  • @amigoponc(70)· 1d

    The question you pose, ‘You deserve better… Do you though?’, perfectly sums up the central problem of your article. We have distorted the idea of ‘self-love’ so much through social media and the ‘you deserve everything’ culture that it has mutated into a form of self-centredness where nobody wants to take responsibility or give in (reach a compromise).

    Nowadays, it’s very common to see these endless lists of demands, where someone sees themselves as the ‘prize’, expecting to find a partner as if they were a finished product – packaged and ready to please them (like those Chinese dolls) – whilst completely ignoring what they themselves bring to the relationship.

    The logic is very blunt: *someone with all those exceptional qualities will also be looking for a partner of the same calibre. Lasting relationships require reciprocity, dealing with discomfort and joint effort, not a list of selfish demands.