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Man or Misogynist

Taraz@tarazkp (86)1d

Several flights were disrupted today because of hoax bomb threats made against them, including a few from Finland. Later, it appears that "Fighters of the Male State" have claimed responsibility for the threats, which is a far-right, ultra-nationalist, misogynistic group or movement that started in Russia a decade ago. I don't know about you, but I find these groups pathetic.

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I haven't spent much time or energy learning about the "manosphere", but this has been happening for longer than there was a term for it. The movements are of course centred around groups of like-minded men and I always wonder, what kinds of women would find their ideology and activity attractive. Yet, it does seem there are women who embrace it, perhaps like a beaten housewife who has chosen to believe her husband acts out of love.

A couple months ago I was writing about how someone in Finland politics said that immigrants should adjust cultural practices that are incompatible with general Finnish culture. I agree. I also think that Finns should adjust their cultural practices that are incompatible with developing a successful country going forward. Conditions are always changing, therefore traditions have to change also.

Traditions aren't held because they are important, but they were first created because they were important for the time. They had meaning due to the context of the conditions, which could be for practical reasons or belief reasons, built on the tools, understanding, and available information of the moment. The practice works for some reason, so it is repeated until it is habit, then passed on down the generations. But this doesn't mean that the practise is still suitable for the conditions of today, or tomorrow, or in ten years from now.

With the information we have available to us today, if all cultural tradition was wiped clean and we were starting from a blank slate, how many of the current traditions would be reintroduced? Would we still be celebrating midsummer by dancing around a Maypole in Sweden? Would women have to cover their hair and ankles in Arab countries? Would we still encourage identity-based bigotry?

While it is easy to consider a lot of the various silly traditions we see from other cultures, we also have many traditions that we probably wouldn't build again if starting from scratch, knowing what we do now. Would we keep the same political and financial traditions that have created massive gaps in equity and opportunity? Would we rebuild the tradition of unsustainable industries that have polluted our environment? Would we spend our time and energy on arguing over the past, when there is a future ahead?

I don't know.

I just think that these internet-driven movements are pretty much all harmful, because they focus on narrow problems that a handful of individuals face, but never address the real issues that we need solutions for. For a moment, let's say that all women stayed in the kitchen and didn't work or if all women covered their hair and ankles?

Would nature be fixed? Would income disparity disappear? Would we have a sustainable clean energy solution?

I suspect not.

Sure, there are lot of problems we can spend our time on, nut most of our energy s going to problems that we are making up so that we don't have to do anything that actually matters. In my opinion, the "culture" that people fight over should pretty much all disappear, because it is no longer suitable for advancing human development and wellbeing, which is the only thing we should be focusing our energy on, because it encompasses everything that is important to us.

We aren't all the same, but we can all be a part of the improvement process.

Unless we choose to hold ourselves and others back.

It is bad to hold ourselves back as we never reach our potential. But those who hold others back from being their best, well - what kind of person are they?

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Comments · 16

  • @kcd(30)· 6h

    This is one of the major problems facing Western Europe. I will be straightforward and realistic.

    There are significant cultural differences between European Christians, other Christian denominations, and Islam.

    Here in the Middle East, particularly in the United Arab Emirates, the Sheikh is a wise and intelligent leader. Muslims, Christians, and people of other religions, such as Buddhists, live together peacefully. There are designated places where people can celebrate their religious occasions.

    A lot has changed here in the UAE. What the UAE strictly prohibits and closely monitors is Islamic extremism. Imams are also prohibited from preaching or introducing religious teachings of their own that are not written in the Quran, in order to prevent unrest and the spread of ideas among fellow Muslims that do not align with the teachings of the Quran.

    I agree with the statements made by Trump and Netanyahu that the European Union should close its borders to prevent Islamic extremists from entering Europe from places such as Palestine and Iran.

    I also recall a similar statement reportedly made by a UAE Sheikh in 2019:

    "You do not know Muslim Arabs because you are not in the Middle East. That is why you should close your borders, because the enemy we are fighting here is Islamic extremism."

    This is the statement I understand the Sheikh made in English.

  • @nextgen-ai(51)· 6h

    You nailed it with that part about made-up problems. Living here in Iran, I see this every single day. So much energy goes into forcing old rules and arguing over what people wear, while real problems like a broken economy and 1 dollar hitting 2.7 million Rials get ignored.

  • @ryivhnn(73)· 10h

    Dancing around a maypole in midsummer sounds like fun XD

    If Hunger Games are anything to go by (and on a smaller and real life scale, some of the business practises I've witnessed) people will just do the literal exact same that didn't work before idiotically believing that somehow it will be different and better this time because they're in charge instead and probably get surprised pikachu when the literal exact same collapse inevitably happens.

    Which is why I'm always advocating for slow shifts to give people time to get used to things even if "everyone" just wants the instant results and satisfaction of a clean slate to do things properly this time.

  • @seattlea(78)· 16h

    group or movement that started in Russia a decade ago

    Sounds like psych ops of the FSB that got activated to further destabilize the West...

  • @shortsegments(78)· 18h

    This is a really insightful piece, and I couldn't agree more with the central premise: tradition is meant to serve people, not the other way around.

    Your point about traditions being products of their specific time and conditions hits the mark. Most cultural practices began as practical solutions to historical problems, grounded in the tools, scientific understanding, and social norms of the era. But when conditions shift and our collective knowledge expands, clinging to outdated customs simply because "that’s how it’s always been done" ceases to be honor—it becomes stagnation.

    The reference to Jefferson’s view on generational tyranny is particularly apt. The idea that a living generation should be bound by the rigid dictates of dead ancestors undermines the very concept of progress. Whether it’s political structures, economic models, or rigid gender roles promoted by extreme internet subcultures, clinging to past norms often functions as a distraction. It channels energy toward guarding the past rather than solving the urgent, forward-looking problems of today—like environmental sustainability, economic equity, and human well-being.

    That said, there is value in preserving the core values behind tradition—like community, identity, and shared purpose—without being trapped by their legacy forms. Culture shouldn't be a museum artifact frozen in time; it should be a living, breathing project that evolves as we do. If a practice no longer contributes to advancing human flourishing and potential, we should have the courage to leave it behind.

    Well said—we can’t build the future if we’re constantly anchoring ourselves to the past.

  • @mortezayousefi(69)· 21h

    the big idea here is that we're all stuck in a loop of "old rules" that never fit the future

  • @videoaddiction(72)· 21h

    I think relationships involving significant age differences can involve serious power imbalances, particularly when one person is still a teenager.

  • @stevenwood(70)· 21h

    I have become exceptionally mistrustful of statements about who is or is not behind these kinds of events in recent years... Call me an old cynic. I am trapped firmly between the camp of tin-foil-dude (I am always suspicious of that term too; why ridicule something so patently foolish and fictional? Unless...) and when people tell/show you who they are, believe them.

    The number of hindsight false-flag narratives used to distract or discombobulate reality is plentiful to students of history.

    I could certainly believe Russia in some capacity to be behind this, but I wonder about the apparent stated means...

    However, on the wider point, the 'manosphere' is hugely toxic and harmful to the young, who may still be searching for their role in society and the wider world. I imagine trying to form a coherent set of thoughts to help determine this to be confusing, to say the least.

    I can see how the 'manosphere' manifested to some degree, though, albeit misguidedly and surreptitiously sinister in nature.

    We have always had certain parameters to describe male and female, inhabited roles and trad-norms as they are being called today. They were obviously not always calibrated correctly though. They are huge positives and negatives to a firmly defined character and understanding of who we are, why we are here and how that should be projected out into the world.

    The lines have been somewhat greyed recently, in young men especially; this can be somewhat disconcerting. Take the simple act of holding a door, not just for a lady, but for anyone, as I am sure we were both brought up to do.

    A man holds a door for 'a lady', he receives thanks and is called a gentleman (even though it is just plain manners in my estimation' and nothing to do with gender). He can hold the door for another 'lady' and be hissed at and accused of a patriarchal micro-aggression...

    This has caused some problems man!

    That was a very simple and shallow example; obviously, there are so many of these unexplained, hidden landmines throughout modern life, though. Remember when fire**'men'** had to be six feet tall and capable of picking up people and removing them from danger fast? We know why this obviously works, but DEI has made this set of necessary characteristics toxic.

    No sensible person has a problem with anybody selected on merit having any particular gender, colour or sexuality for example (actually there may be a few!!!) However, quotas: all female/ethnic/sexually diverse groups have muddied the waters.

    The cynical and ideological pounce on this and frame it in an anti-male way to radicalise (cos that's what it is) disaffected young men. That is where it becomes dark and sinister. We can raise boys (for this example) to see the world in a more nuanced way. They can still be unapologetically 'male' while seeing the opposite gender in a respectful, healthy way.

    Girls would need to be raised in a similar way too, for this to work.

    Maybe we are talking about raising people in a world that relies on understanding, cooperation and cohabitation with other people!

    You mentioned 'cultural neutrality' (paraphrased of course).

    In the UK this is highly debated right now for so many nuanced reasons.

    My take, if I visit Egypt (which I just did and met genuine Bedouins) I want to see the culture, people and their reality. Try to gain some understanding and think about this versus the stereotype that I maybe had previously.

    If someone comes here, it is for Buckingham Palace, fish and chips, politeness and endless queuing and chimneysweeps...

    I definitely don't want the 'McDonaldsisation' of my or any culture. It is amazing and enthralling to meet with the citizens of and visit other cultures. Homogeneity would strip something from a diverse and fascinating world that has vibrancy and difference, while proving in many ways we are actually very similar: lives, hopes, dreams, fears, loves...

    Yeah, I know Humans!!!

    We aren't all the same, but we can all be a part of the improvement process.

    Absobloodylutely, Amen!

    Sorry again, I tried to streamline that while hitting each point... Alas...

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  • @bozz(83)· 1d

    Sounds like the "proud boys". :P

  • @layaart(58)· 1d

    think traditions were created by people whose minds were occupied with those issues. Perhaps they wanted to solve a problem, but mostly they created restrictions for another group. Perhaps this also benefited them. Certainly, everything changes just as the Industrial Revolution brought about a great change, artificial intelligence is also the biggest current transformation.

  • @elvishunchoo(66)· 1d

    The internet has made it easier for people with extreme views to find one another and reinforce their beliefs. Sometimes, what begins as a small community of frustrated individuals can grow into something much more harmful.

  • @sammylain2(61)· 1d

    This makes me wonder how many things we defend today simply because we grew up seeing them. Perhaps if we examined some of our beliefs independently, we would discover that they no longer serve the purpose we think they do.

  • @alvanozie(66)· 1d

    I believe there is a difference between preserving culture and refusing to accept change. We can appreciate where we come from without allowing outdated practices to determine where we are going.

  • @rishehri(62)· 1d

    Mr Taraz; I think traditions should be understood rather than blindly followed or completely rejected Every tradition carries traces of the history, fears, beliefs, and experiences of the people who created it but societies evolve, and our understanding of human dignity evolves with them. Perhaps the real challenge is learning how to preserve the meaningful parts of our cultural heritage without allowing outdated beliefs to limit human freedom and potential. Should the social value of humans be determined based on their gender or on their ability, personality, thoughts, and human status? The answer to this question is both easy and difficult.

  • @fieryfootprints(75)· 1d

    Traditions aren't held because they are important, but they were first created because they were important for the time.

    Today my mother was listening to Maria radio(like most of the time) and I heard someone saying that catholic wants to marry someone who is non-believer/of different religion they have to get presmission. From the church. WTH? why are people still letting the church dictate who they can marry and who not?

    This makes me glad that I don't plan to marry. If I would like some girl enough to marry her and the church would randomly decide that we can't do that I would rage...